I was on methadone for pain management but my Dr moved and couldnt find anothe dr. to continue my methadone treatment. Every Dr I went to said I will switch you to Dilaudid or oxycontin or anything but i will not write methadone. So therefore I ended up on the Methadone clinic. But another problem is, I have severe panic disorder and Im also on Lexapro and Klonopin, so the Methadone Clinic wants to kick me off because theyre policy is no benzos. I would like to come off of the methadone and switch to suboxone but the problem again is Drs dont like to put people on suboxone that are on Klonopin.Even if you go to medscape.com or webmd.com it says there are no interactions. Even drugs.com says minimal interactions. I dont know what to do I live in NY. Suffolk county.
I want to switch from methadone to suboxone. (on md from pain now on clinic bc dr moved).on klonopin
- Posted:
- 7 Sep 2009 by Zaba The Hut
- Topics:
- klonopin, suboxone, anxiety, opiate dependence, opiate withdrawal, pain, methadone
Responses (38)
8 Sep 2009
People stop breathing and overdose on the combination because they abuse the drugs. If you are prescribed both of these meds and take as prescribed you will be fine. But people will triple or quadruple the dose of each and they will overdose (respiratory failure). I am a college student in the medical field so its not like i dont know what im talking about. If you look up the combination of Lexapro and Methadone its the exact same interaction. Some websites like medscape.com or webmd.com say that methadone and klonopin have no interactions at all. The whole problem is people that abuse drugs. If you take enough methadone or any other opiod agonist it will cause respiratory failure alone. Just like if you take enough of any benzodiazapine alone it will kill you too. Mixing them would just take less of each to kill. People who have or had drug problems should not be given these drugs because of that danger, but responsible people would be fine.
Just because people are on these meds does not mean that they will NOT follow their doctors prescriptions. You are wrong to think that people are automatically drug addicts for taking pain meds, and benzo's. I have been on meth and benzo's for years. Pain gives a person anxiety, and also makes them depressed. You may be a medical "in the medical field" which means you are not a doctor, nor in med school. You could be an undergraduate. Before you make a blind statement like that, either read about people who are honestly in pain and abandoned by their doctors, or be in chronic pain yourself. Better yet, go to a conference from the Association of Pain Doctors, and learn how many people suffering from chronic pain actually overdose. They don't. Only people who are extremely depressed, (probably because we are not being treated correctly by doctors who don't understand the depth of chronic pain), or their pain meds are NOT working the way they should.
PS: Only .04% of people who take pain meds are addicts. In actuality, they call themselves addicts because they don't know the difference between opiod dependence, and addiction.
11 Sep 2009
WOW that is a very touchy situation. but MR. college man is even a little wrong here. Get some PROFESSIONAL advice , mayb e even more than 1 or 2 dr's opinions . i am dealing with a somewhat same situation, and i plan on getting as much info as possible. good luck and GOD bless, i am here with ya
22 Oct 2009
I don't know anything about Klonapin, all I know is I have been addicted to opiates for the last 10 years. I have tried methadone, it worked well until I decided not to take it any more. I have been on Suboxone since 8-6-09 and I can't say enough good about it. The most wonderful thing for me is it has taken away ALL thoughts of Hydrocodone and I didn't think that would be possible. My brain was always my worst enemy in that I would start thinking about it and then begin obsessing about it and was back on it before long. Weeks will go by and I will realize that I hadn't given it another thought. I do take Ambien CR with it, but I am very careful and only take it as perscribed. I take 4 mg of Suboxone twice a day which I think is a pretty low dose. Good luck to you. Different things work for different folks, you just have to find what works for you.
What, if any, were your withdrawal symptoms from switching from methadone to suboxone?
Yeah I had to get a tappering schedule but I will admit that Im still taking the klonipin becaue Im on dissab ilty for having anxiety disorder and I take it right and theres actually allot of medical stuff with my brain from an od so I need the nerve pills to cope so I dont no what to do caue the methadone saved my life of oxyconton and herion..Ya I understand that they have to watch their asses but Im not abusing my nerve pills and I always pass my piss tests, ill just not take anny like three or four days evertime I have a councilng appt, and I tell her Im taking the buspar and its taking time but Im not compleatly withdrawn from the benzos so I can tell her that Im still experiencing anxiety but not as bad, ill tell u what though I need a nerve pill as soon ans I get out of ther, I dont want to die,
Honey,if I knew of a benzo-like substance that I could take with the methadone for anxiety w/out risking getting kicked out of the clinic then i'd gladly let you know but I don't.
14 Dec 2009
have you ever considered taking Suboxone? It seemed to work so well for me that I didnt feel the need to take anything else, At first, I took valium and also xanex with it for awhile and then all of a sudden my pain from a huge back surgery with 32 screws and two rods and alll of the bone graphing that they did, had subsided and the nervousness had also went away too. It was fantastic, anyways if you need to talk, I am always here, I have been reading more and posting a bit less, but here I am to make a couple posts and answer a few questions... toodles friend.
YEah I take suboxone for back pain as well, I was on methdone, I really did better on methdone. My problem is the I'm due to have a double knee replacement on Feb22 and i have to stop my suboxone 3 days before surgery. Well my pain management doc is out of town until Feb 22 and i' really lost and don't know what to do. I didn't think we were supposed to come off cold turkey. I know before my back pain was sooo bad I thought I was going to die. Any suggestions???
I had a surgery and when i did so... my Doc had me stop the subs and take percs. Like 50mgs a day. It was so nuts cuz they didnt do shit for me and i was actually looking forward to feeling the difference(the addict) phrase. I eventually was saying how stupid, I dont feel anything., I want my subs back. Back to the question, yes you will need to take another narcotic for a week prior and or atleast a few days so it will do what it needs to do when you have the knee replacement. Wishing you the best of luck. Chat again soon.
3 Jan 2010
I took my LAST methadone on 12/14/09. I was on methadone for over 5 years. Started with my pain management prescribing 60 mgs a day. Like 95% of addicts, I quickly built up a tolerance and have taken up to 350 mgs at one time. I went to the methadone clinic in 06/06 where I was given 90 mgs a day for over 3 years. (also bought more on the street) On Monday 12/12, I decided to switch to suboxone. Tuesday was fine. By Wednesday afternoon, I started withdrawing and it got worse by the minute. By Friday morning I was in MISERY! I went to the clinic and got my 1st dose of suboxone. 2 hours later, I felt much better but probably about 40-50% from 'normal'. Each day got better and after 4 days I was much better. Today is my 19th day on suboxone. (20mgs) It is the BEST decision of my life. I truly feel like I did before I started taking pain medication. Remember, I have taken THOUSANDS of mgs of methadone over 5 years.
I am just starting a suboxone program and my Dr has random drug testing for benzos and opiates. They supposedly dont test for anything else. I have taken suboxone in the past and a low to moderate dose of xanax or clonopin really helps keep me calm and clean. Sometimes i feel anxious and i think the suboxone enhances it. Other meds for anxiety just arent as effective as benzos, most just knock you out or do nothing. I would like to find a Dr that would help me balance a safe dose of clonopin with suboxone but i doubt it will happen. As far as methadone i have been trying to find a clinic that is taking new patients but they are all full with a huge waiting list. So for no subs it is. Wish me luck, heroine everyday is no way to live. I cant believe how powerful a substance can be to make you helpless to its hold on you. Thank god for drugs like suboxone.
Does suboxone help your pain? My pain management dr. has tried every opioid that exists, with minimal relief. He was not qualified to treat me with suboxone so he told me to look for a dr. that is. I have suffered in pain for 11 days, my dr. doesn't prescribe methadone but says it is great for pain relief. Problem is I can't find a dr. in Pittsburgh to prescribe it. I see methadone as my last resort besides death.
4 Feb 2010
I live in suffolk too bro. My doc tests me and will take me off subs if i fail for opiates or benzos. plus i have to go to a councelor. Let me know if u find a better Doc. Mine cost 350 to get on the program and 95 a month. what does your doc charge for suboxone treatment. Good Luck Buddy This Aint Easy
15 Feb 2010
hey i am on klonipin and 12 mg of suboxone..you need to go too this website to find another dr turntohelp.com you will find a doc there.and if you are allready on the klonipin like i was all they will do is you take a lower dose of suboxone,or a lower dose of klonipin.my doc had no problem with it..
Hey, is this site on the up and up? I'm not saying anything bad, but it's like almost TOO good to be true! Do you already have to have a prescription? I am going to add you to my friend list, so maybe you can explain how this works... Thanks Sweetpea
26 Feb 2010
hi fellow sub people, my name subzero58. i've been on suboxone for 7 mounths. i was on kadian 800mg/day. kadian is a pretty name for morphine sulphate. when i was younger and using street drugs i always thought how great it would be to have a doctor perscrid a drug like that.I was on methadone clinics 10 -11 years ago. then i got kicked off for u know the same old reasons im reading about in some of these stories. i fell off a foof 4 years ago and got my wish,a doctor who would perscrib me whatever i wanted.to make a long story short .i was put on kadian,400mg 2x daily. after 3years of agony n pain, i had enough. i put myself into an inpatient clinic. they helped me get off the kadian n 6mg of xanax a day. after a week of methadone, i laid in bed crying from the pain i was in. i was sent to there psychiatric doc who told me i would be better off gettin on methadone. no way i told him. he tryed all kinds of medicine. nothing seemed to help.
I was a heroin addict for seven years. I finally hit rock bottom and turned towards methadone for assistance. I appreciate the fact that it was there to get me off of heroin. I don't appreciate the fact that the clinic only cares about how much money they get from you by lying to you about the effects that methadone can have on you, your body, your teeth, and how long it takes to get off of it. They told me how much better it would be to wean down off methadone and that the withdrawal symptoms would be nothing compared to the heroin withdrawals. Unfortunately I found out first hand that this was not true. With heroin I would've withdrawn for about 2 weeks hardcore where as methadone I would've done it for about a month or two. I was on methadone for about 3-4 years. I finally transitioned to suboxone after meeting the coolest doctor.
Hi there - can't believe how much meth you are on!! I was on it after a heroine addiction and managed to taper from 50mg to 4mg per day in 6 months. Might be worth reading the tapering instructions here? I have no medical knowledge but if you could decrease the meth wouldn't that pose less danger to your health? Good luck whatever you do. Thinking of you. Jay xx
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