phenol and killed the nerve but it grew back even worse ,I have been on
150mcg of fentynel for 18 years. Will this medicine help with the horrible
pain I have every day.Please I am about to loose my family and I need
help. I also take methadone 80mg. My whole life is counting pills and worrying about running out ( and I have ) the worst is the patches Thanks
I have chronic pain syndrone for the past 20 years. I unfortunatly had a doc treat the nerve with?
Added 22 Apr 2011:
Please folks make sure that you are seeing a pain specialist its critical that
you tell them the truth. My life is pain all caused by a drunk driver in 1990
and it hasn't stopped yet. But its ruining my family life because all I worry
about is running out, and pain.This site gives me hope for the first time
thanks many times over BL
Responses (7)
22 Apr 2011
Hey Blahute,
Sorry to hear of your unfortunate accident in 1990. I understand the problem with chronic pain and believe me it isn't easy. Why are you going to lose your family, if I may ask?
Have you considered non narcotic medicines for nerve pain such as Cymbalta or Lyrica? There are alternatives to the methadone and fentynal. You would have to consult your doctor concerning this but might be worth an investigation.
We are here for you, please keep posting,
Laurie
22 Apr 2011
I totally know how you feel! My husband does not understand either. People who do not have chronic debilitating pain do not understand what a drain it is and how it affects every aspect of your life. They cannot understand why you just cant "buck up" and get on with things or try to tell you to just ignore the pain and do what you have to do. They dont understand that it is so severe it just overwhelms your every thought! It is easy to become preoccupied with the pain so you have to be careful the pain doesnt start to rule your life. It sounds like to me that you may not be having adequate pain relief and that is why you become preoccupied with counting your pills and worrying about running out.
Thanks for your comments, Pain is taking over my life. I have tried every
one of the meds you mentioned except Lyrica. I went to Ca to see my
daughter at grad school so I had to go in a few days earlier.I count my
meds so I wont run out . I have run out a couple of times, and I never
want to do that again. Your right I don't get total pain control but I don't
get any form of a buzz. All it does is let me do my chores, Horses,house
repairs etc. Taking the meds is awful . I will never forget when I saw a
friend and I told him a got creamed by a drunk driver ,his comment floored
me . Oh your so lucky you get all the pain meds you want can I have some.
I got shook my head and walked away.I want my life back. I know its not
going to happen. I agree with you that a schrink is a good idea. But do to
my daughter in grad school Mom and Dad seem to be paying for everything
23 Apr 2011
i relate to you more then you know i have had chronic pain for over 10yrs, and have been on every narcotic and opiate out there. at one time i was on 300mcg of fentynel and it did nothing. i have had four back surgeries three which are fusions, they cut one of the nerves in the second surgery and it grew back painful and hypersensitive. a slight breeze hurts. after going to one specialist after another last year i found my third pain mgmt doc, and she is wonderful and has changed my life. i'm on methadone, lyrica (for the nerve pain and it does work, only problem blurry vision) valium (for the muscle spasams, norco (for break through pain) dalium (for sleep). i used to be like you a pill counter then i found the right combination and i never run out and usually have some left over.
Amber
thanks for your wonder full comments I am actually cutting back on the patches 25MCG at a time this is one med that you don't suddenly stop.
I got sick of it a dumped it down the bowl and ended up in the hospital.
I wont to that again. I need to now of the med they recommend on the site
will work for chronic pain. My life is counting and hiding my meds so know
one will get hurt. I am so tired of having to take this garbage but I either
take my meds or I end up in a wheel chair. What is Dallium I rarely sleep more then a couple of hours a night and its burning me out.My wife doesn't
understand my chronic pain and I never bring it up. So I haven't a sole to
talk to. The only people who do understand are the ones at the doctors
office.I am trying to find out if the med that this site mentions will help
with the chronic pain. I am getting off the patches slowly 25MCG per
dalmaine i spelled it wrong the first time is a very old sleep medication which i take it's very cheap only 8bucks a month generic. this is what i exactly what i take i know it is a lot but ive been on meds for over ten years and have been diagnosed with a overactive kidney which processes the meds and anything else twice as fast. here it goes 12 methadone a day/5 valium/1 dalmaine/12 norco/then for my tachycardia 100mg of metropolo or something like that. ill friend you so if you want to private email me please feel free to do so. i also used to take an extra pill here and there and would go a week without drugs till my next appointment, it was hell week so i know how that feels. but when i found the right combination i have no need to sneak an extra pill in im on a time schedule have one of those weekly medicine things for am noon pm bed. it works i fill it for a week then when its time to take my meds there are already pre-packged and ready to go. i hope all goes well keep in touch your friend, amber
That's very similar to what was done with the phenol I believe Mary - and the nerve grew back and then some from what the post said. Too bad, but I know I have rhizotemy's done for my sciatica and piriformus nerve pain - that's the radio frequency ablation procedures mentioned earlier. The nerves do grow back - anywhere from 3 months to 18 months later, then I just get the procedure done again. Don't know what I would do without these, and sure hope something like that could help this poor person!
I understand that, My son cut all his fingers off at an horrible angle at age of 17 with a radial arm saw, The nerves kept growing back is cirles in the stubs, Had to have several surgeries. to correct the problem. The funniest pary of the story is they took part of his forefinger and took a graf from his groin & sewed them togetherr in the palm of his hand. Eventually they cut them apart, but he has something besides just bone sticking against the skin of that finger. I saw him picking at it one day & got one him asking what he was doing. He replied her was pulling hair from his palm! The the graf took place, but it was the groin area & he had pubic hair growing on his palm. Still does to this daty! He's 44. Just thought I'd through a laugh in their. We don't seem to get to laugh enough...
23 Apr 2011
Hello (I know what Chronic pain is about) I lived through Polio and the after effects many years later, since 2003. You are right it's so important to find the he/she out there who specializes in pain, once you do you need to be as honest and open as it means the difference in all the world! Because of my low body fat and my body's ability not to be able to function I had to be removed from the Fentanyl.
Billy,
Thanks for your comments , I am still trying to find a combination of meds
that will relieve me of this constant pain. And the fact that my brain says you hurt take an extra Methadone you have them . Then I run out. I hate being
like this counting my meds , ETC. I can tell you have already been there
as soon as I figure out this site I will put you down as a friend so this way
I can email you direct. This will sure make me feel more comfortable. I will
say at least I am not just the only one going through this . My family doesn't
understand. The only people that do are the ones that I meet down at the
docs office.I have know one to talk to about this problem so it sits and eats
my stomach away.I hate having to take this medicine. I had never taken a
pain med until I had my wisdom teeth out and the Demerol made me so
sick I finally just dealt with the pain. I don't drink,smoke. or do any form
23 Apr 2011
Hi: I know this may sound stupid, but the Rx pain patches never worked for me--so I kept experimenting with OTC patches and found that the ICY HOT extra strength (largest) size for the "BACK" DO work!
I have cervical stenosis with muscle, tendon and ligament pain--so don't know if they would work on nerve pain or not. I get these patches at Costco~~2 packs of 5 each, per box, for $9.69. Just a thought--and cheap to try.
I've also had insomnia for over 35 years, and tried all the traditional sleep meds.
Yes, some would work for up to two weeks, but then you had to increase the dose--which left me feeling hung over the next morning.
I went to a Sports Med doc in 2006, who put me on Soma, which is a muscle relaxant. I only take it at bedtime, but it has a 'side effect' of 'letting' you sleep--not 'making' you sleep, and I wake up clear-headed and ready to face the day!
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Hi laurie, My wife of 37 years is tired of the fact that my life is drugs, I really
got hurt bad in 1990 and before never took an aspirin. The accident knocked
me for a lope . I tried for 2 years without taking meds and they said very simply ,either take narcotics or be in a wheel chair,so I did. Unfortunatly I
saw a doc who promised me he could cure me . He hit the nerve with phenol
and for 6 months I was pain free. then the nerve grew back even worse. You
know when you have a cavity drilled and he hits the nerve , well I have that
pain 24 hours a day. The problem is when I am in so much pain and I have
meds I will take them. I have 30 days worth of meds and next app is in 37
I hate the way I am . My family has seen me in full withdrawel at least 1/2
dozen times and the pain of with drawels is off the chart.Will this med work
for chronic pain . Please I need help , and thank you for writing. Lots of love
BL
P.S. my spell check isn't working
laurie,
I tried Cymbalta, it made me feel wierd and did nothing for the pain , I tried
neurontin nothing, The only thing I haven't tried is Lyrca and I think I will try.
I am so tired of not sleeping, and being worried about running out , and the
pain. my life is pain nothing but pain. I just had major shoulder surgery, and
that was a blast. I have horses and I can't not feed or water them so I royaly
screwed up my shoulder enough where the Doc yelled at me.My family is
tired of Dad being on meds. I have never smoked cigs , I don't drink and I
don't do recreational drugs yet I have COPD . I eat all organic its like why me. I never talk about my pain with my family. I have know one in the world
to talk to . I am depressed all the time. The economy killed my business of
25 years Theweb site is still up www.pcitakeoffs.com you can al least see
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what I used to do. I used to love life, and now I just want to give up. I have
to stop the cravings for the meds yet still not be in constant pain. I don't get
high ora buzz onthe meds I take they just make the pain go away. I also
went down on the patches from 50MCG to 25 mcg I still use the 100 MCG
patches. laurie thanks for listening. RP
You are in a tough position and I feel for you. Maybe the Lyrica will work for some of the pain. At least worth a try. I wish I could offer you more of a suggestion, I am here if you need someone to talk with. Feel free to post often. I encourage you to space your meds out carefully and follow a schedule so to not be in withdrawals that last week before your appointment. Withdrawals from methadone is aweful and dangerous to say the least.
I know I haven't told you anything you don't already know, but I am here for ya and am willing to listen anytime,
Laurie
laurie,
just having someone to write to is really helping. When I go and see the Doc
I speak with some of the people who are in the same boat and they are they
only ones who understand. I have already counted my meds andI know exactly what I have to take every day. maybe I will get my stuff together
and not screw up Thank you so much for your help. Your a doll. I hope
that you are doing ok . You haven't said anything about your problems
please feel to unload any time . Thanks again
Ron
You are so welcome Ron, I am a chronic pain sufferer too. I have had seven surgeries on my foot and use to take methadone. I now have a neurostimulator in my spine which sends electrical impulses down my leg to interrupt the pain message to my brain. Sounds complicated but it really isn't. I rarely have to use it anymore as I have lost alot of weight and some of the surgeries have helped.
Hang in there buddy and I hope you get the relief you deserve soon,
Laurie
laurie,
I tried the stimulater also but I am very thin and muscular and the stimulater
caused me so much pain they had to take it out. It actually twisted my back
and I was so hope full. I never had the permanent unit installed. I have also
tried the radio frequency but do to the clown who treated the nerve with
phenol that also didn't work. he never told me that the nerve could grow back
and if it did it would grow back and grow all over the place. I went to one doc
who would inject lidocaine right into the intercostal nerve.That was like battery acid for the first minute but I would get a whole day of relief. And I
hate needles.I have all my meds counted out for tomorrow so its time that I
get my stuff together. it sounds like your doing pretty well . If you have time
there is a web site just go to google and type in Dr Mercola its a great site
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for meds, diet foods to eat. What not to use. its one of my favorite sites and
I have learned a ton. You have been so helpfull Thank you again
Ron
P.S. any ideas who might know if the new meds will help with the chronic
pain. I know you not a doc but I did notice that you have been on the site
as anybody mentioned it helping chronic pain
I can't say off the top of my head who to contact about the new meds, kinda would be breaking confidentiality anyway. I try to be careful about that, just the way I am. Comes from working years in the medical field. Anyway, post another question about it and see what ya get or look up the med and read the reviews. Glad you are going to watch your pills and patches over the next few weeks until your next appointment so you don't run into the withdrawals again. If you need someone to talk to, I'll friend you and you are welcome to private message me anytime. Or just keep posting here.
Laurie
laurie,
I would love to private message just point me in that direction, and I will
email you back. it would be nice not to have the whole world know.The reason for the 37 days is they go on a 30 day cycle. And if my appointment
falls on a Saturday then they to Friday. i am already 1 day off. I went to Ca
to visit my daughter in feb got back on the 21st saw the doc for my meds
then went in for major shoulder repair. now I am off days. My truck finally
bit the dust and with my daughter on college there isn't ant money to fix
it. So my wife has to take a morning off to get me to the Doctors . So I am
off again. So for me to get back to the 30 days I have to add 7.And like I
said before I hurt so bad that I will take an extra pill. I know its stupid but
my brain says (Ron you have a way to get rid of your pain). The only people
that understand are the folks in my same position. And like I said earlier
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I don't bring it up with my family, and I don't mention to any of my friends
I just hold it in. I do have to admit that I am getting real tired of folks saying
oh you look so tired,your limping,are you sure you don't want to drive down to Ny city and walk around and see the christmas lights. I am really frustrated, and I can't see anyway out.I just can't go through withdrawels
again. So I have to count my meds and not go over.Thanks loads for
letting me dump on you , its good to be able to talk with someone who
understand
Ron
Hey Ron,
Just click on my icon, the little doggie face, and it will say add member as a friend. To private message me just click on private message and type away. I'll be here for ya anytime. I understand how just having someone to listen really helps.