My friend Beth is a chronic pain patient on the fentanyl patch. She went in to her pain management Drs. office yesterday and they now have a system for doing urine screenings. She's fine with that, but we both are confused by their system. The nurse was so proud that their system (a regular bathroom) you didn't have to be watched by anyone because they could turn off the water in the sink, and soon they would be able to turn off the water in the toilet as well. How does this help them - we are very confused.
2 Feb 2011
Well, the problem is with all these pain management clinics is that they discriminate ALL people with pain issue's and that are receiving narcotic pain meds!! Its like they get off on finding a patient they may have taken something other than there prescribed. What they don't give a **** about is people that haft to live everyday 24hrs a day 365 days a year with serious chronic pain, and they don't want to give you anything stronger than what ur already taking, regardless if ur body builds up a tolerance to that same med day after day and even if you have already said something to the doctor treating you.
They neglect A LOT OF US PEOPLE WITH SERIOUS CHRONIC CONDITIONS BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAFT TO LIVE WITH US, AND SEE WHAT ITS LIKE TO BE US, AND WE GO TO THE DOCTOR LOOKING FOR HELP & SUM COMPASION U WOULD THINK THEY WOULD WANT US TO BE A LIL MORE COMFORTABLE AT OUR HOMES AROUND OUR FAMILYS! I'm NOT SAYING JUST GIVE ANYONE STRONGER PAIN MEDS, OR ANY MEDS FOR THAT FACT! What I am saying is people that have no choice in the matter of having to live everyday in serious chronic pain, SHOULD NOT BE GIVEN THE COLD SHOULDER OR TREATED LIKE A DRUG ADDICT!!! I UNDERSTAND THAT DOCTORS NEED TO PROTECT THERESELVES, BUT DAMN IT THEY ARE BEING PAID FOR A SERVICE. IF THERE NOT SMART ENOUGH TO TELL THE DIFFRENCE BETWEEN A PATIENT THAT THEY HAVE EVERY TEST RESULT PROVING THERE CONDITION AND DISEASE THEY SUFFER FROM, BETWEEN SOME PATIENTS COMING IN THERE OFFICE WITHOUT EVEN 1 MRI ASKING FOR NARCOTICS BECAUSE THEY WANNA ABUSE THEM!!! They shouldn't be in a Profession of caring & providing help for people!! Sorry about the venting,,but its going to far when a nurse thinks its a laughing matter that people can't wash there hands, or flush a toilet after a urine test. I understand why they are doing it, because people take in the urine that's clean, and has what the doctor is prescribing them in it, and what they do is after they have poured the urine in the testing cup with the thermometer that reads the temp on the side of it. They will put the cup under the hot water in order. For it to read the right temp. People do some crazy things, and I know this because of a person at my doctors office was doing it, and adding water in there urine to dullite it in order to give a inaccurate reading. That's why your doctors office is doing this probably. Anyway,,its just ridiculous people have got to suffer because of other peoples actions!! God Bless
2 Feb 2011
This is very disturbing to me. They turn off the water so a person cannot dilute their urine, pour it down the sink, or flush it down the toilet. This is going pretty far. Too far for my comfort. Unless a person is a verified drug abuser, nobody has the right to watch them produce a urine sample. Personally, I would not stand for it. Not everyone abuses drugs! I would find another doctor. On the other side of the coin, there are a lot of people who sell their pain meds & those who abuse drugs & self medicate, buy them. BUT, this is by no means everyone. What may be true for one person, should not give reason for forced testing for everyone. But, that is the reason they turn off the water. Everyone has rights, and if they feel these rights are being violated, then they should refuse this test & file a grievence through the proper channels. For those that have something to hide, they are only hurting themselves & making it hard for others. If they turn off the water in the sink, how does a person wash their hands? There are signs everywhere telling people to wash their hands after using the bathroom. What about this? Please tell your friend to let her concerns be known, ask why to whatever she is concerned about, and not just take whatever is being forced upon her. She has a voice & she has rights. Please tell her to use them. Let me know how this goes!
Wishing her & all of those in the same situation, the best,
2 May 2011
Because they dont have 2 invade your privacy.plus can u immagine somethings they have 2 see.they cut the water off in the toilets now as well.they used 2 test me everytime i came in.may it b every 2 weeks or 1 a month.what i dont get is when ur on a no of narc.those test can say anything & they know this.dont get me started.
2 Feb 2011
Well??? I'm not quite sure! Maybe the urine tests are to see if any other drugs (street drugs such as marijuana) than the ones being prescribed are also being used. The water thing does confuse me unless diluting a urine sample could render it unresponsive, or a false positive. I am aware that in our area, Methadone is huge on the street, & the only way people are getting it are from people with prescriptions that are selling it. A lot of people on Disability don't receive much income, and selling some of their drugs will help them to pay their monthly bills. Fentanyl patch is another popular drug on the streets. A urine test would show how much of the drug is in someones system to see if they are taking as prescribed or putting one on 12 hours before their appointment, & selling the rest.
I have heard that doctors are really being scrutinized about the prescrition pain meds they prescribe. Check with your local congressman to see if this a new state law or something that doctors must have to follow . I am on Methadone myself for chrontic pain & have been for 11 years. It makes me just want to sleep all of the time & I hate it. Fentanyl makes sick, & Vicodin, which really helped my pain was causing me some liver-common bile duct problems. I am weaning myself off of methadone. Was on 50 mg. a day & am done to 10. Hope to quite soon, but my pain problems are still there & getting worse! Hope I make it. Would rather die awake & aware than zoned completely out! Let me know what you find out & good luck!
1 Apr 2011
I have had the same reaction to my pain in the ER. I could barely move and I couldn't sit down at all. The doctor told me he thought I was looking for drugs which was not the case. I had my surgery 11 years and never had one narcotic. I know he sees addicts even in the little ER but I am upset at his judgement. I am now afraid to go back because of his judgments. It should not happen anywhere in the medical field.
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