... lorcet plus 10/325 considered to both be made from morphine?After having been perscribed the m.s.contin on a maintenance plan as well as the lorcet plus 10/325 for breakthrough pain the new pain control Dr. has taken me off of the 100mg. of m.s.contin but did not say anything in regards to the lorcet plus 10/325?He has replaced the m.s.contin with a new med Opana 30 mg. which I still need to look up it!s makeup but with it not holding I have had to relie on the lorcet 10/325 almost at the same time.Anyone know for sure if this is appropriate or not.I really felt that with the new pain control Dr. I felt Like a common drug addict looking for meds.There is not one med I have taken nor take now that a Physician has not perscribed and in fact haD initially given me grief over not taking stating they could not help me unless I did in fact take the perscriptions.After years of fighting them I finally had no choice iyt was either take the meds and be half way funtional or do not and be unable to even dress to leave the house.This was after many years of trying to work 60 to 75 hour workweeks in constant pain.Any suggestions? thanks,KAthysbest
13 Mar 2010
I am a prescribed patient on Narcotic pain medicine maintenance. I take 100 mg MS Contin 3 times a day and Oxycodone 30mg for break-through. I have been on pain medicine for about a decade and on MS Contin for a few years and its effectiveness has diminished and am thinking about trying Opana to see if my tolerance will be lower and medicine will be more effective.
I have to say, that it is plain stupidity to take someone who has been on MS Contin 100 for some time and move them to Opana at what is less than 1/3 the strength and think it will be effective. I understand that your doctor wants to put you on the lowest amount of medicine that will be effective but that is a ridicules expectation that less than 1/3 of your previous dose will help you. It may even cause you withdrawal symptoms and if you are older or have heart trouble could put you in real danger.
I am lucky that my regular doctor will treat me and I do not have to see a “pain specialist practice”. My mother has to go to one and they treat her like a child. They make sign some contract and take a oath and make you feel guilty or dirty. The doctor generally has no personal experience with chronic pain and has just found their niche picking up patients that no one else wants to deal with because of fear of the DEA or state. They have extra insurance for the limited exposure and don’t have to cure anyone or feel the pressure of a life or death emergency.
I have to say I am tired of being made to feel like a drug addict as well, especially by every medical practice where I have fill out a medical history or current medication list. I just had to have a unrelated surgery and everything was pleasant and respectful until the pre-surgery review of my medication list. I went from nice conversation and respectful consultation to eye-rolls, whispers and a flat out statement from the surgeon that I am on my own for pain after I leave the hospital that evening “which I planned for and my doctor had made sure I of” but I was insulted and felt the same surgeon that was so nice really thought I was scumbag drug user just from the information on my chart/ I never asked him for anything but he assumed I would ask and hound him for narcotics for eternity.
I am ranting now, but can see the same statements from everyone how we are made to feel “shady, shifty, like drug addicts who can not be trusted”
Hope some of this helped.
11 Feb 2011
Yeah I have to say as a chronic back pain sufferer myself.That alot of doctors really do act like that.When you go to ask them for narcotics.I am just happy to have lorcet 7.5's and the only reason he prescribed me those. Was because the other medication I was on darvocet got taken off the drug market and by law.
He had to give me an alternative.Since then my stomach and liver have been starting to give me enormious problems and i am scared to even ask him for something stronger but i might have to.These stomach problems are just unacceptable.If anybody has any drug suggestions please let me know.I am fed up with all of these side effects and most of them are caused by the tylenol that is mixed in with it.I am pretty certain.
16 Oct 2010
I take 30 mg. of morphine sulfate once a day and oxycodone 6x aday for break through pain and its working well so far.Anyway My situation is alright since I can freely communicate w my doctor.Plus he lets me try whatever pain med I want,with one exception though.I just need to be honest with him about my pain and how the meds are helping me or not helping.Really though you just need to have a good,open "relationship" with your doc.!
10 Aug 2009
M.S contin is just morphine in an extended release formulation. I'm on 100mg twice daily with Dilaudid(hydromorphone HCI) 4mg four times daily for break through pain. I was thinking of trying Opana because I know that sometimes you don't have to up the dosage of what you are taking,but just change to a different drug of comparable mg's. I want to know how the Opana is working for you. Do you think it would work better at a higher mg? You probably know Lorecet is just 10mg Vicodin. Dilaudid works very well but they do not make an extended realease version in the states. It is available in Canada & the U.K by the name of Paladone. I'm lucky I have a doctor who is very understanding about pain control. Opiates are under prescribed because of fear of abuse or dependence,but in people with cronic pain issues it really doesn't matter because in all likely hood thier going to be on the meds the rest of there life anyway.
Dilaudid is commonly prescribed to cancer patients because they don't care if they become addicted because they will die anyway. Thats a hard way to get the meds you need to control your pain. I've had 2 C-1 C-2 vertabrae fussions and sometimes even with the strong narcoticts the pain comes right through if I don't catch it early. Sorry I rambled on,but back to the Opana. Does it work as good as the 100mg of M.S Contin when it is working but does not work long enough,or does it just not work as well? Thank You.
11 Feb 2011
i take ms 30 three times a day and percocet 5 a day ,had to change from oxy 30 s cuz of price, i know for me if i miss my timing on my ms even a couple hours i pay hell trying to get out of pain and even after only 6 months on the ms its not woking as well for me !Im not abile to have anymore surgeys so meds are my only way,sounds like you are starting at to low dose as was said,they make ya feel like your asking for there fist born to increase your meds ,god bless you,keep trying
13 Jul 2009
I too am on MSContin but only 15 mg 2x a day with no no narcotics for breakthrough pain. I have tried the Opana 10 mg and found it much more effective than the damn MSContin but my pain doc won't order it don't know why. I totally understand how you feel about the way you were treated--like a common street junkie--my own husband calls me that. People who don't suffer from chronic pain have no idea what its like to live with constant pain. They can keep the drugs gimme my pain free life back. Since that ain't gonna happen you just want relief. I know exactly how you feel!! But seriously try the Opana Like I said I think it works better and yes it's morphine too! Good luck!!!
13 Jul 2009
I feel your pain. I am on MS Cotin 30 mg every 8 hrs with 10/325 percocet for breakthrough pain. Even after three back surguries and waiting for the forth I still am treated like a drug addict from friends and family especcially with Dr when I have to go to the emergency room sometimes cause my new Dr. is over an hour away and just can't make it. When they ask what rx you are on and I tell them you see a change in their attitude. I never took pain pills untill they perscribed them and the part like you is I cant function with out them let alone work because they are not paing my bills and keeping up with all the other maintanence like house and car. The surguries did not work either. Just be strong and know that you are not a junkie regardless of what they say because by not taking them it will make things worse especially if you have a wife or kids. You lose time with them and the fights are not worth it so I take them when I have to. Good Luck to you in your quest of getting better.
17 Jul 2009
My doc won't give me m.s. cotin but give me 20 mg of oxtcotin x3 aday w/ 10/325 fora backup. I too have had several surgerys [8 total knee replacements] plus I still need another job to be done to try and fix what all the other docs. haven't been able to do. hang in ther and be glad they give you enough to get some relief, and maybe you might try to cut down on your hours of work. I know how hard that is as the way things are in this screwy world today, and how our govt. isn't doing any thing to make it any rasier. good luck and hang in there.
14 Oct 2010
Opana is oxymorphone & is stronger than M.S Contin & is NOT made from lorcet(percocet) oxycodone.Opana is a derivitive of oxcycodone. You were on a high dose of M.S Contin(I was on the same dose 2x daily with Dilaudid(hydromorphone) for B.T pain. I think in your case your Opana does is to low that's why your needing both. It's to bad there are ALOT of doctors who think so many people are jury abusing them & as a result alot of people are not getting the pain relief they need. If your doctor isn't so close minded that he isn't willing to discuss your issues with your meds,I myself would try to talk to someone over his head or switch doctors,tell them what worked & what didn't & is not another foc like you had,I'd think you'ed get some help with your pain control. First I would ask your present doc to up your Opana.
This is to the person who also answered your question,Opana is not covered by alot of insurance companies,I had very good insurance & it wasn't covered under mine, so it might not be that he doesn't want to write it for you but is limited by your insurance company. Hope this helped both your questions.
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