I am trying to quit pain killers?

hi toobadgirl, that light in the tunnel sweetlem was telling you about,its not god waiting or telling you to come into the light. no,thats the train coming at you.if you dont want to meet it head on,then i suggest you get off them tracks.if you have female trouble or some kind of pain that you deal with on a daily basis hiding it with pills will only make it worse when they where off.and they always do.im hoping a doc prescribes them for you.

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if you really wana get off them then tell on yourself.any doctor will understand.if a doc isn't perscribing them then by all means talk with your bf and tell him exactly what your trying to do.if he loves you like you hope he does,then you need to work as a team on getting you off of these tracks before he losses you to these drugs.i'll pray for you all i can and so will the other people you texted with,but this is up to you.believe me when i say there's no one who can watch you 24/7 its up to you.if you go to a doc after today i'll tell you what you need to ask him/her for.catapres/clonidine for your blood pressure .01mg 2x a day,ativan or xanax,valiunm,some kind of benzo 3x a day. you need enough for 5-7 days.get some vitamins,a good multi will do just fine.maybe some amodium a/d for the runs, you will be getting them.some kind of tylenol or motrin,for body aches.lots of gatoraid. or juice you can hold down. all this stuff is the main reason why you need to ask your bf.if you live together he's gonna know something's up.try to take short walks in the beginning to help tire you out.now this one is optional,a bar of ivory soap,if you keep it under your covers between your feet it helps with cramping in your feet and in your legs. i know it sounds crazy,but please belive me it really does work.all this i just told you will make this go as smothly as it gets.in the begging of my text i was a bit hard on you, for this im sorry.if i left out anything out and i think of it i'll text you back.promise. if anyone out there can think of anything else,look out for this girl... pete

Toobadgirl; re your stomach... Get off all drinks containing acid... ie... all fruit drinks [apple may be ok, and I think watermelon is ok] ALL SODA etc. take meds on full stomach or with 8oz. glass of whole milk or good ice cream
Kid you're not gonna' kick this, and you and I both know it... why... 'cause you don't have the guts to stand up in front of a Dr. who has suboxone, tell him / her the truth , then tell him /her that you need His /Her help. There's one way you can get your ovaries back in line... forget your past, TOTALLY! ! it goes like this kid... "I'm here 'cause i'm hooked on??? I hear you[doctor] have a SUBOXONE treatment program [NOTHING ELSE]. Can I get on it ... if the answer is anything negative, you say "ok Doc." and LEAVE. I don't know your state but there are "THOUSANDS" of drs. climbing on the suboxone bandwagon= MONEY ! !

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Get online & look up "Buprenorphan[sp.] or Suboxone, they usually have a list of doctors in all states. Good luck sweetheart and if you get on a good suboxone program, you post ol' Sacosam, and you say... "There you old fart, I told you I could do it"! ! Ha Ha Ha! Sacosam

hi i would start to plant the seed in your mind with a book , its small but is the step work book 12 steps " the steps we took" by Joe Mc Que he is the best teacher of the recovery steps of our time, also look up residential rehabs( find all your options, you may need time off) also find a doctor who is compassionate to this and who will not judge you on it, this willgo a long w3ay as talking therapies and reading are only part of the solution, also finding a sucessful addict who has at least 5 years clean time to help guide you through the steps and they will know the up cumming hurdle which will be plenty, the good thing is yopur on a ride to self discovery, insight into your self , awarness of who you are and your personality traits and short comings , and you will walk strong out of this clean and a person you will love and at this stage admire to be.

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Openness, honesty, and willing ness are the key if your not keen to get the help and research it ,get the best you can i did, but once you get it hand over your power and go with the process and come out with so much more and you will enjoy lifge so much more, its worth it , or you could go insane, jail, or die.You can do it you have already taken the first two steps, admitting and asking for help xxxAll so sarcosam if your out there please join as a friend evehn idf its temp i have a private msgxxxx

I just wanted to comment on a few things you mentioned. I had to tell a faithful wonderful boyfriend about a lortab problem and he already knew and was totally supportive. I got on suboxone a little over 2 years ago. One thing I want to mention is the Thomas recipe, an alternative to cold turkey and opiate replacement therapy for anyone who might need that info. Google the Thomas recipe opiate withdrawal and read the entries Thomas made about his progress and the otc meds and supplement he used to get off opiates. This is simply a mention for those who may read this answer. Anyway, guilt, shame and depression are feelings that show up when someone is dependent on pain pills, that is why you need a support system of loved ones and friends to cheer you on and keep you up and focused on staying sober.

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You will have to be in moderate withdrawal for suboxone to work but the good news is you won't ever have to go thru withdrawal again and the suboxone works really quickly when you take it so you will feel great anywhere from 20 minutes to 45 minutes after your first dose. You have to be without any opiate on your receptor sites in the brain or the suboxone won't be able to work and you could go into precipitated withdrawal so make sure you are honest with the doctor. You are supposed to tell the doctor about your regular doctor, just in case of an emergency, the subs doctors rarely contact your regular doctor, so, ease your mind about that.It will take anywhere from 24 hours to 48 hours without opiate for you to be in moderate withdrawal. Google the COWS sheet ( Clinical Opiate Withdrawal Scale) and it will list the symtoms of withdrawal, such as pain, fatigue, stomach upset. You can get some imodium ad and start that so the stomach upset will be minimalized however, suboxone will more than likely constipate you, so, get a gentle laxative for when you start treatment. Drink more water, eat fruit, and exercise to help with the constipation, if it occurs.Take someone with you to the suboxone doctor on your first dose day as you will need the support and may be anxious. If you go on YouTube.com and look up suboxone you will see many videos from doctors and patients and I just found them last week, didn't think to look there and they are helpful. I liked Dennis Hansen at New Beginnings and Dr. Jeffrey Junig aka suboxdoc. Dr. Jeff has a forum, and a website for suboxone. Best of Luck, I will be saying some Huge Prayers for you. It is going to be alright. I don't always have access to a computer, but, I always Pray for my suboxone friends here on this site. Patti

Hi Toobad -

If you have insurance, I would really consider going thru a rehab center. It will give you the support - real live and in color - it takes to quit junk. Plus you will have medical supervision - seizures are a possibility in withdrawl. And one thing that I found particularly comforting was reading program literature - NA, AA, CA - the stories in the back of those books were short enough for me to get thru while stopping, and also very helpful in that they are reminders of how you got where your at, that you are not alone (screw guilt), what "yets" to be could be waiting out there for you, but most importantly, they are all success stories. For me, the stories helped me keep my eyes focused on my goal - getting back to clear-headed freedom I once knew.

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And for heaven's sake - if you are supposed to be on anti-depressants, get back on them. Why are you making it hard on yourself? The entire span of getting off junk, the withdrawl actually takes quite sometime, and depression is part and parcel of the process..

I wish you a clear-eyed sober New Years