Suboxone Film has been giving me sereve headaches and sometimes even vomiting. Also my feet are sore and tender for some reason. Has anyone had these symptoms? I hear Subutex is cheaper than Suboxone too and I pay out of pocket for my meds. I don't want to be on Buprenorphine much long and I wanted to see about weening off in 30 days with Subutex I hear you can sleep better and I also heard a rumore that naloxone can sometime block your natural dopimine in your brain is this true??
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pattishan614 Dec 2010
Subutex has a generic that is cheaper. I have seen several complaints of headaches, soreness, ane feeling bad on the film, more complaints than not. Go to wikipedia and look up both naloxone and suboxone, i swear i read that the naloxone blocked dopamine on 1 of those 2 pages. U didn't list ur dose, and there is a quick taper, i did a slow taper and walked alot when i got down to 1 mg thru .25 mgs and it helped. more info in my profile story. When u r tapering, if u think u might b depressed, get that treated, some like me do. Good Luck. Pattishan
TboneCFP5 Dec 2010
Jbomb - If you have never been prescribed Subutex before, it is tough to say that the Suboxone is causing the severe headaches, vomiting and sore feet. If you had been on Subutex w/o these symptoms, then I would surely blame your reaction to Suboxone. That said, Subutex has a generic version that is MUCH cheaper that Suboxone. Regarding the naloxone and its affect on dopamine, I have recently read the same thing about naloxone. Back to you, I think you may need a higher dose of Subutex/Suboxone at least until you start feeling better and then you should think about tapering. It sounds to me like you are undermedicated if you are having these symptoms. They sound like WD symptoms to me.
jbomb
7 Dec 2010
I went to my Suboxone doctor yesterday and told her all the things that have been going on and she will NOT switch me to Subutex. It pisses me off because I get drug tested everytime I get a new script of Suboxone and I smoke trees here and there and when the test comes up positive for TCH my doctor threatens me with lower doses which makes me fucking withdrawl! I've been on 8mg since March and since my test was positive for TCH my Suboxone doctor only wrote me a script for 4 fucking tablets (that means I only have 4mg a day) and told me when I come back and have a clean urine she will put me back up on 8mg. I'm fucking pissed and I want to switch to Subutex. I think it's bullshit that Subonxone doctors can tell you everything is going to be okay but they just get you hooked on another form of dope. ANY SUGGESTIONS!!!
TboneCFP
7 Dec 2010
Jbomb - you need to get a new Dr. NOW!!! What is she doing, punishing you for smoking weed? While I do not agree with you smoking weed if you are sincerely trying to get clean, your Dr. should not FORCE you into WD by making such a drastic reduction to your dose for no other reasons that she feels like you have been a "bad boy" and she is punishing you. How did you come across this Dr.? Are you able to find another Dr? It is obvious to me that she hasn't a clue as to what is going on? She may push you right back to your street drugs if she is not careful! I am sure you do not want that to happen. Good luck man, find yourself another Dr. yesterday!! Tbone
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Thanks alot! I'll give some more information and maybe you or someone can help me out. I've been perscribed 8mg a day since March. I was a heavy Heroin and opiate user for about a year and a half before that. Sometimes with the 8mg-a day dose (even the tablets) it just doesn't work as well me for me, it's hard to describe and I run out before my next refill because sometimes I take up to16mg but no more. My doctor is always trying to "rapid ween" me off when I fail a drug test for THC too. It pisses me off bc I'm not using opiates you know and I don't look at marijuana as a big issue, but thats just me. But I'm sick of having to rely on another opiate.
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Do you think it would be a problem if I talked to my doctor about switching to the generic subutex because of price and the side effects I'm having with the strips? I've been reading alot about subutex and I would perfer to switch and ween of within a months time. It says you can sleep alot better and their easier to ween off. I would rather ween off of just buprenorphine rather than trying to ween of buprenorphine and naloxone both. I need some answers I see my doctor on Monday.
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Hey JBomb, thanks for filling me in, I was texting from my phone and it only lets you see a few lines of your own answer as you text, it doesn't let you see the post, so when I went to preview, I saw the 8 mg you listed as your usual dose. I agree with you on the part where you want to continue smoking and it shouldn't affect the suboxone program, but some doctors do give people a hard time or drop them if they smoke.Go to wikipedia.org and read the page for naloxone and the page for suboxone and read for context, you will see that naloxone causes problems for lots of people and why. Some doctors won't write for subutex, don't really know why, but if you doctor won't, it might be worth it to find another one that does. I heard the generic subutex only runs about $2.50 per pill. Have you ever tried taking 8 mgs in the morning and 4 mgs in the afternoon to see if that helps you.
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You could even do 6 and 6, and the only reason I say that is because the less you are on, the shorter the time of tapering off, please do whatever keeps you from using. IF you have to find a new doctor, you might want to ask when you call the office if they will write for subutex before you go there, ask what the induction fee is, if they are going to charge you for that since you have already been inducted and if there are any other requirements, such as random UA's. Best of luck New Friend. Pattishan
I personally have been on both suboxone and subutex and find that either medication while extremly similar are extremly difficult to stop taking and the w/d are identical i recomend talking to your doctor about tapering you off this medication as you are not a doctor and it could be very dangerous if you make a mistake with how fast you stop. the exercise is a great suggestion also lots of hot showers and otc sleep aids and stomache meds like immodium really helped me along with my doctor and my tapering plan and the most important thing you should do and the only thing that got me through the w/d was going to a na meeting everyday! good luck
Hey Mike, thanks for that info. I tapered slow and didn't need anything but the walking and toward the very end of the taper, i did get on a low dose of amitriptyline( anti depressant) and I was stringent with the walking. It took me a year to a year and a half of tapering slowly to go from 8 mgs to 48 hours between doses of .25 mgs but I really had not withdrawal other than anxiety and depression, and to be fair, I have suffered from those always.I stayed on subs 2 1/2 years including the year and a half long taper. Didn't start with the walking til I got down to .5 mgs. People need to hear more positive stories about getting off, like yours, so many people just post that they couldn't get off or had major problems. It really scares people and I am always amazed at how many people are reading these posts that don't really participate in answering, they just read posts. Probably a few hundred a month.