My husband hurt his back a few times over the years, he's a construction worker so he has fell off ladders & a barn before. He has 4 cracks in his spine and 3 crushed disks. I know he is in pain & he needs his pain meds. But the prescribed amount no longer helps him. For the last 2 years he has been taking narcotic pain medication & has had to keep increasing the amount of pills he takes. He currently takes seven 7.5/325 mg of Norco 3 times a day. That is 21 Norco's a day! Sometimes even more. He gets a script for 240 a month & is only supposed to take 8 a day. He is out within 2 to 2 1/2 weeks. Before the Norco his old Dr. had him on 5/500 mg Vicodin and he would take 10 of those at a time. I know the amount of acetaminophin alone is very dangerous. And he knows too. He gets very scared & he has severe panic attacks thinking he is gonna overdose or that his liver is shutting down. He also takes Xanax for his anxiety. The combination of the two pills makes him where he's falling asleep randomly through out the day. Everytime he tries to stop or take less of the pain pills he is in excruciating pain. If he doesn't take the Xanax he has panic attacks & thinks he's dying!! Its like a never ending thing. He is about to undergo a back surgery, so I am scared he's gonna take even more of them from the pain of surgery. I am terrified I'm gonna lose my husband. I barely sleep at night, I'm constantly feeling his heart to make sure its still beating or feeling for his breath. He isn't the typical addict. He wants to stop taking the pain meds, but he doesn't know how to stop without his body being in excruciating pain. I'm so worried and I don't know what to do anymore. I'm scared it's just a matter of time before he overdoses, or worse... Any professionals that could give me some advise would be greatly appreciated!!
Husband takes way too many Vicodin/Norco?
- Posted:
- 19 Nov 2010 by michelle.82
- Topics:
- norco, vicodin, pain
Responses (6)
19 Nov 2010
Hi michelle,
Your hubby should be worried about his liver! And I can imagine how afraid you are. Please google Suboxone, 'tis a med that blocks opiates and prevents withdrawal. I am not the resident expert here about subs, but there are several members that will be only too happy to answer your question.
Suboxone is very safe, and can even help with pain... if memory serves, may have that part wrong. Someone will correct me if I do!
Good luck to you and your husband, hang in there,
sweetlemon
19 Nov 2010
The max dose of acetaminophen for a patient with a healthy liver is 4000mg/day. Ask the doctor to prescribe a standalone pain medication (one without acetaminophen).
Please let the doctor know about your husband's acetaminophen overdosing. If your hubby has been overdosing for a long time, the doctor may want to evaluate his liver.
A note about opiate addiction: Patients who are in severe pain should not be denied opiates for fear of addiction. In such patients, addiction is not common.
Hi pharmasight. You are so right about chronic pain sufferers. Personally, I could care less about any "high" associated with opiates. All I want is relief from this debilitating pain. Excellent point!
I have been taking pain meds for approximately 7/8 years and while I was very tired when I 1st started taking them I was really sleepy but I never felt "high" and I still dont. I am going to see a new specialist in a week because my P/C dr will no longer write my scripts cus I came back negative on a urine test for my breakthrough pain meds. But because of other drugs I take It Negated my usage of percocet I dont know what to say to him so I can get my meds again but your body does become used to pain meds so every once in a while they need to be adjusted.
19 Nov 2010
Please try to relax a little. His system has become accustomed to the amount of meds. If an opiate naive person were to take that many at once, they would probably pass out or maybe over dose. But his system has adjusted. The doctor who prescribes the norco's is not doing him any favors. Obviously he/she knows the condition of your husbands back. They should have started him on a good extended release form of pain meds along with the norco for breakthrough pain. Chronic pain sufferers, like me (and so many others here) are normally prescribed our meds this way. Long term use of short acting meds is NOT an ideal situation. I really feel for you and your husband. I know what his back is feeling like. I would also suggest he find a good spine surgeon. Orthopedic surgeons fix all kinds of bones in the body. Find one who specializes in spines only. Check around for one who did a 2 year fellowship under a good spine surgeon.
19 Nov 2010
hi,if your hubby is getting ready for an operation then this is the perfect time for him to talk first with his doctor then with his surgeon.have them both there or get it in writing that he may need a pain management doctor.living every day in pain changes a persons brain.his body tells his head somethings wrong.if he does not get the correct amount of pain relief the damage to his brain will not be corrected and then he will need pain meds for the rest of his life. one more thing,xanax can be very effective and dangerous.if he is nodding out from them he should be switched to a longer acting benzo.klonipin is a better long acting benzo and is only perscribed 2x a day.changing to a stronger pain med can be very dangerous when taking any benzo.good luck to the both of you. let us here at drugs .com know how things go..
19 Nov 2010
Hello... I am suprised that your husband's Dr is rx'ing him so many short acting narcotics. If he is in chronic pain, a longer acting pain medication should be used. Due to use over time, and/or severity of pain, his norco rx is probably subtheraputic. I hope that his physician does routine bloodwork, he/she most definately should be. Pain, escpecially chronic pain, can easily trigger anxiety. If he can get his pain under control with the proper pain medication, he will be taking the pain medication less often, taking a smaller quantity per month, getting actual relief, and helping some of his anxiety. Be very careful with the xanax, that is dangerous to stop abruptly, he must taper down and then take only as needed. There is something called pseudo-addiction. That is when a patient in legit pain is over medicating, or asking for a larger quantity, or alternative/stronger pain med because they are not being treated with the proper medication or at the proper dose.
5 Aug 2011
the one thing he sure needs to be sure that is done before he has any surgery he needs to tell the doctor openly and honestly what medications that he is on even if he's taking more than he should it may even being a good thing brcause the doctor really needs to know! (just sorry this post did not get to me before now) the maximum amount of acetaminophen that he should have is no more than 4000mg per 24 hours, lets say he was on a hydrocodone drug (such as Norco 10/325) same as what he's taking just a different name, if he takes the 325 indicates how much tyleno he is getting if he took 325mg and took x12 (twelve tablets a day that would = 3900mg and 4000 is the limit.
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SL, Suboxone does not work well for chronic pain. Also he supposed to be having surgery to fix his back. I wouldn't go the Sub route yet. There, I corrected you. But you are right about the dangers of too much acetaminophen. You're such an angel for helping so many people. :-)
chris,
Thank you for correcting that mistake!! Wouldn't want to push anyone in wrong direction.
SL