Hello my name is Ryan
My wife and I have been taking oxy's for just over two years now. It started as a rec thing and just became this big problem. We are only sharing one 80mg pill a day, but it is still to much we want to be free. We do not want to go on methadone because we just do not agree with it and how it is used. I just got a family doctor so I am not sure he will help me out with anything. Ie..taper program or Valium. I am just lost as of what to do. We both are done with them we tried cold turkey but with having kids around the house and having a job it is just not going to work. I can tuff it out but can't work while doing so and my family needs me working. Can anyone help please!!!
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Hello my name is Ryan
27 Oct 2011
Hello Ryan... Coby just gave you a really good synopsis of his CT and then subsequent sub treatment. For you and your wife I think that short term suboxone might be a good choice. In the whole scheme of things you both have not been taking THAT high of a dose and you have not been on these for very long... unlike myself and Coby and others here who had 10 years plus abusing opiates. Like you and your wife we all started taking the drugs for a legitimate ailment... we then found that the opiates did a great job for emotional pain or as coby describes himself getting which was 'antsy.'
I started at 4 mg of suboxone (2 mg. 2x/day). For a very brief period my doc wanted me to up the dose to 6 mg. per day... I did this for about 2 days and then went back down to 4 mg/day. I am elated that I am now to 2 mg/day.
I saw my sub doc today and he wants me to coast on this dose for a month or so... the reason being is 2 fold. Firstly, my doc still thinks that I still have extra receptor sites that need to be eliminated by the body... everyone is different in getting rid of these extra receptor sites... this has been his experience.
Secondly, I need to still get grounded in my recovery program. I also saw my addiction counselor today... I feel that if I jump off too early and NOT be grounded in my program, I could easily turn back to opiates given the right situation occurring in life to cause me to want to do this. I CANNOT chance this.
Ryan... you and your wife are not by any means hard core drug addicts, but for whatever reason you got hooked. Those of us who have the propensity to go that way always need to be very careful with opiates. I know that I will never be able to take them again. If i do have a surgery or other condition that warrants the use of pain pills I will need to make sure i have someone who knows i have this problem, like my sponsor who happens to be my life coach, be there to make sure I am accountable for the short time that i COULD be on these drugs. We who have that propensity to be addicted have an aberrancy from the normal in the part of our brain that handles addictive behavior. Who knows... those of us who have this propensity MAY also produce more receptor sites when the drug causes them to up regulate, therefore, with more receptor sites screaming for occupancy, we have to take more of the drug.
I assume you understand receptor sites. If not let me know and I will be happy to explain more. I am already writing way too much.
Since you and your wife have kids and jobs, suboxone short term may be the answer for you... I do not think that you will need to take it as long as some of the folks here. Yes, as Coby said, it would have been nice to slowly taper off the opiates... although i do not think that I personally have the will power knowing that they are available... I would probably convince myself for a reason to take more!! Sub is a wonderful way of treating opiate addiction.
You really do not NEED to be on it that long... and it is not really that good to stay on it for long. It is an opiate also and has a very long half-life. But, it in effect, gives our brains time to heal and eliminate all those extra receptor sites formed from excess opiate use.
They (some folks here) say that it is the hardest weaning from 2 mg of suboxone to zero. My doc truly believes that this is more psychological... the jury is still out on this one for me! I am keeping a positive attitude. When you think about it 2mg is minuscule compared to the FDA allowable for suboxone which is 32 mg. While weaning he and my life coach both tell me that it is important to keep one's life as stable as possible... no life changing events, etc. to upset the apple cart, so to speak.
So Ryan... I am not sure why I went into all of this. It is a little off from what you asked. I hope that by reading this it might help you in some way shape or form. I want to be supportive to you and your wife. Do not be afraid to try suboxone. It is a great way of treating opiate addiction. I think it will soon be the gold standard in treating opiate addiction. If you do not know how to find a sub doc, go to the suboxone web site and type in your zip code and a list of docs will come up. I would call a few and see which one suits you and your wife. I would also recommend an addiction counselor or support group to help your through this time. Please do not hesitate to ask away any questions you and your wife may have... God Bless both of you. My prayers will certainly be with you...
26 Oct 2011
first of all, was the prescription prescribed? if so you can always be on the up and up with your dr and ask for a taper plan, that helps me, im going thru a taper plan at this moment. another thing i could suggest is google in suboxene providers in your area, that may be the better route for you and your wife, please do keep us here posted and come here for support, i know the feelings of just wanting to be done. also try a phsych dr, tell him you need something to help you sleep,and for the stress your dealing with trying to come off this medication, that may help at nite. hope this helps, hang in there
26 Oct 2011
Suboxone (pronounced Sub OX own) may be a good choice for you and your wife. Just google Subdocs in your area, you may need to enter your zip code to find a licensed Suboxone doc.
If you can afford it, tis a good choice. If, however, you cannot afford it, please seek help from Catholic Services or a church, they may pay for it.
Subs stop cravings for opiates and stop withdrawal in it's tracks. It is a very viable option!!
27 Oct 2011
I assume you mean you want to do this without going on Sub? I don't recommend that unless it's a last resort.
Two years is a long time, but 40 mg each is not a gigantic dose. I see no reason you 2 can't do a slow taper off them. I presume you can keep getting these, because you implied you can't get anything else. Are you sure? Sometimes it is easier to switch opiates and do the slow taper. In your case I'd suggest Hydrocodone. You will need time just to get used to Hydro, as it doesn't feel as great as Oxy does. But some people actually like it better. It has far less cravings. But when doing a taper, it always seemed easier to me if I switched from what I was using. You don't want Methadone and I wouldn't suggest it anyway. Methadone is too much stronger than Oxy. Really only Hydrocodone and Codeine are weaker than Oxy, and I'm not so sure about Codeine. So can you get a lot of any of these: Vicodin, Lortabs, or Norco? Those are the Hydro pills. You will need to start at 40 mg a day and possibly a bit higher. You'll need a week to get used to Hydro, but then start the taper. Reduce your dose by 5 to 10% every 2 - 4 weeks. Obviously the slower you go the easier it will be. But can you get the pills?
If you can't then do a slow taper with Oxy. Do it as I said.
So what do you think, is it doable?
27 Oct 2011
Like I said before we were not getting them from are doctor. This is why I asked if I can go to him and ask for a taper program ? My wife has been going to him for years, but I am a new client have not even had a first visit yet. I would way rather do a taper program. I am not sure about these Sub things you are talking about. I have never even heard of them before. I am just so sick of my life revolving around these drugs. They are everywhere here in Canada and not cheap at all 50 for and 80 and some places 80 for a 80. I am not rich but seem to get one everyday. So sick of all the lie's just want to be free.
27 Oct 2011
Ryan I was on the oxycotins for years. I tried cold turkey and went 8 weeks. I was taking over 200 Mgs per day and like you I decided it was just time to stop. If not for my very busy job I would have stuck with the cold turkey no matter how miserable I felt. But I needed to work not just show up and hide in my office. The one thing I would have done very differently had I come to the DC community was try a taper plan. I did not I just stopped. So reluctantly I went to a suboxone Dr. I just had to get something in me that would allow me to function. They worked right away. Just 2 Mgs per day I function like I am normal. Remember for me it was a last resort. I do not know if suboxone will help you as it has me but I do know I now at least have a plan. My plan is to lower my dose each month so when I do stop there will be hopefully minimal amount in my system to detox and the withdrawals are not as bad as going cold turkey.
I know this is a longer process then my attitude " I want to be clean now " but at least for now I can function without popping an oxy everytime I get antsy.
I also know I am though it has been 4 months now addicted to the suboxone. In the sense that if I do not take my daily dose I will feel the withdrawals.
On the upside the are some wonderful people here like Pattishan and Unlv grad that have tapered down from a higher dose of suboxone to nothing with minimal withdrawals. They give me hope. I do know I am better off then when I was consuming all the oxys. The key to this whole process is will power and an understanding of what you are doing and what the best approach would be.
The mind plays wicked tricks on you. Opiates are terrible to get off. You sound like you are ready and if you are: be tenacious , be committed. Tell each other everyday, we can do this , we must do this.. If you can not simply stop a d go cold turkey as I tried to do and failed, then subs might be an alternative solution. I am not at all saying I am proud to be a sub user just the opposite. I feel guilty. But I know in my heart it was the right choice and my best chance at living drug free.
There others that have or are in my shoes and yours, Pup6767 for instance started at 6 Mgs per day of suboxone and is now down to 2mgs. I am encouraged by just knowing that. I plan next month to start my taper. I know I have to be mentally ready. Trust me there are days I still wanted a oxycotins and might have taken if not for the subs. I no longer have those urges. I hope for the both of you a successful program. I know for you as it will be for me, a much better life without depending on a pill to help you be the person you know you are. My best heartfelt wishes to you both.
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