... psychopharms as having everything ranging from 'Bipolar NOS' to 'Depressive Anxiety' to 'Adult ADD.' I also have chronic insomnia, chronic pain, and Testosterone Deficiency (caused by ongoing 8-year methadone treatment for my chronic pain)! And since '95, I've been prescribed every permeation of every medication 'cocktail' out there. My p-doc keeps changing meds on me even when I seem to go through seasons of being fine; so I feel forever trapped and dependent on the constant barrage of meds I continue to be prescribed. Right now - aside from Methadone - I take Cymbalta, Klonopin, Provigil, Dexedrine, Depakote, Temazepam&Trazodone(both for sleep), and Synthroid. My doc has kept me on this regimen for longer than he's kept me on any other (about 7 years) - probably because he doesn't want to change much while I'm still taking Methadone (now 50mg), as there are so many interactions with that med. Finally, my Endo started me on Testosterone Replacement a bit over 1 year ago (now take weekly Cypionate shots, 150mg, along with Arimidex 2xweekly, as my Estradiol levels were getting too high). Now, on to my question: I've recently been reading a lot about Oxytocin - mainly abstracts of various studies and trials that have shown the potential for exogenous oxytocin to help treat mood disorders. Over the years, I've tried many alternative therapies in an attempt to see if I can ever break free from all these heavy meds, which really have never helped my symptoms beyond minimally. So I am interested in trying Oxytocin; the studies done for the hormone in mood disorders all utilized intranasal or sublingual forms; and I've read about a few products on the market that do not require a script. Of course, neither my Psychopharm nor my Endo are being at all helpful in responding to my questions regarding interactions and safety (because they are both skeptical of any unconventional treatments). Anyway, I ended up ordering a bottle of 1 of the sublingual oxytocin products online called "OxytocinFactor" sold by ABC Nutriceuticals. Anyone know of it or has experience with it? A single dose is 6 drops under tongue, equal to 10IU of Oxy, which the company support has told me is extremely low compared to what they use in mood studies and even lower compared to the amount used to induce labor. On that note, Support has been very helpful in answering my questions about safety - especially concering if & how it would effect my TRT and Estradiol levels, etc..In the end, though, they of course conclude that it would be safe for me to try. Problem is, I'd really like to see what you guys think, as I'd expect the product's customer support dept. to tell me it's absolutely safe, no interactions, etc... I just want to end by stressing that - despite my current complex med & hormone regime - I still suffer symptoms of social anxiety, loss of interest in life or meeting others (I tend to stay indoors and isolate), and general dysphoria. According to all the studies I've read, these are the exact type of symptoms that low-dose exogenous Oxy can ameliorate, by - among other actions - controlling cortisol (stress hormone) in the Amygdala, thereby increasing stress threshold; it also has been shown to increase pain thresholds and even help opiate-withdrawal symptoms (I'm currently attempting a slow but difficult taper of my methadone). And of course it promotes positive social, behavioral aspects & basically helps to aim the body-mind in the intended, correct direction of self-healing (great for those stuck for years like myself - possibly due to oxytocin deficiency). Lastly, many sources have noted that long-term opioid use & SSRI use can create such a deficiency of endogenous oxytocin (not surprised, as opioids can - and often do - create Testosterone deficiencies in men, like it did to me; and oxy is another hormone. Sorry for my wordiness - but I even ordered the bottle and received it but feel I need more opinions by people other than customer support before I feel safe to open and try it. Anyone?? Thanks,
Peter
Hi. I'm a mess. Quick background: Since 1995, I've been diagnosed by numerous psychiatrists &?
- Posted:
- 15 Sep 2011 by Delray90
- Topics:
- anxiety, insomnia, pain, hypogonadism -- male, oxytocin, testosterone, chronic
Responses (2)
17 Sep 2011
Hi Peter - I'm sorry to say I don't have an answer for you, but I hope someone will comment soon. I know I deal with a rare allergy and I've had to become an expert on it, as otherwise I would be dead by now. It certainly sounds to me that you have become an expert on your situation and in all the medications you are on. I doubt anyone here can speak with more authority than you have already. Trust your instincts on this - you know more than most, if not all, doctors know about this. I do hope someone who has related experiences will see your question and comment sharing their experiences. If not, go with your gut. I do, and have done, a lot of alternative therapies over the years as Western medicine has failed me in a lot of areas. Like you, I've exhausted all that my doctors know and have needed to search for things considered "outside the box" by mainstream doctors and I really feel that I wouldn't be Alive today had I not.
27 Nov 2011
You might not like this but, I beleive you relay way to much on modern medicine. Its not the cure for whatever you have its just covering up the sysmptons. How much do you weigh? What do you eat? Do you eat a proper diet? Something tells me your over weight and don't exercise. I found out that exercisings makes you feel better gets the chemicals our God put in our body to maek us feel better. It would be wise to get a good NA or AA support group. And get involved in it. PLEASE START EXERCISING. You will feel so much better its hard to get it started but once you get it started its easier to work out walk or run. Hell just walk a few miles a day. Get involved in new hobbies. And as for your doctor tell him about you. You have lived in your body you know what needs to be in their and whats not suppose to be in their.
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