The withdraws from the effexor were bad.I am in a lot of pain and dont want to do anything anymore.It hurts so bad.I have been staring at this bottle for three days, any suggestions?Im a mother of 4 boys and a stepdaughter.I dont have time to sit here any longer.I havent been diagnosed with Fibromyalgia but they say it will help with my pain.Ive been suffering from depression since I was 18.Im now 34.I could also sleep anywhere at any time.I feel so tired. My family thinks Im just being Lazy.The pain has increased around my neck and spine 2 years ago when i got in a car wreck.I cannot work, because after a few hours of standing my legs tingle and will give out.the doc says i have a herniated disc but its not that bad.Im going through injection shots right now.They arent doing anything.My pain is mostly by my tailbone, upper to mid back, and my neck right where it connects to my head.I noticed more pain after I weaned from the effexor.Also would like to know if there are tests to prove u have this and who can i see to find out?will my spine doctor know?
11 Aug 2012
OMG can I relate to the pain and the family. I do have to say, if a doctor tells you you need any kind of invasive procedure, get a second opinion. We do get pain I call pseudo carpal tunnel syndrome so you get the idea. I take effexor cause its cheaper. I don't know if cymbalta will help you more but it will take about a month for it to get to a therapeutic level in your system. I get alot of pain between my shoulder blades and up the back of my neck then around my head. At times it causes a severe headache. Tests for what? A herniated disc yes, fibro no.
11 Aug 2012
Kaismama is right. The cymbalta will take about month to reach full effects in your system. I started it years ago for the pain from my osteoarthritis, but noticed the change in my mood and general outlook too. Unfortunately, it no longer helps the pain of my arthritis, but that's a degenerative disease, so that's really not unexpected. A Rhuematologist would be the best one to diagnose and treat fibro. While there are not definitive medical tests for it, there are pain point tests that will help the dr decide if that might be your problem. They will also be able to tell if perhaps you have onset arthritis due to your injury. Please take copies of any ex-rays or MRIs with you if you choose to pursue this option. You may also need to be referred to pain management for your chronic pain. There are medications out there that can help you. When you suffer from any type of unrelenting pain it's going to wear you out and wear you down.
Sometimes it's difficult for people who don't suffer in this way to understand. Sometimes they can be educated, sometimes they just need to have their butts kicked a little! Don't let them drag you down any further. Just remind them that when Mama's not happy - nobody's happy! :) Hope this helps.
11 Aug 2012
Hi stacy - just wondering when the last time was that you had a full physical and your thyroid function evaluated? A lot of those symptoms are also connected to hypothyroidism. Chronic fatigue syndrome is right up there with the top symptoms to look for along with irritability and even weight fluctuation issues. Depression is among the top symptoms related to hypothyroidism. Who is prescribing the psych meds to you? I am thinking you need to be properly evaluated before taking any more medication. Just as a matter of mention... psych meds and pain meds affect the adrenal glands. Don't be surprised if you do have thyroid issues. Better to know that know and get on the right meds to correct that... you might also be surprised to see that some of the other issues you are experiencing might not be prevalent any longer. Wouldn't that be wonderful???
I have been talking about a book quite a bit around the forums called, "THYROID POWER... 10 STEPS TO BETTER HEALTH" by Richard Shames, M.D. and his wife, Karalee Shames, R.N., PhD... together, they have helped countless patients conquer hypothyroidism and all the other symptoms that were previously misdiagnosed. It is a quick, easy read and one I highly recommend. You would be surprised to see all the symptoms that have been determined to be a result of low thyroid function. Just a thought and I know you have a busy household. You also need to take care of your health. It didn't get this way overnight and it isn't going to get fixed overnight. However, the sooner you are diagnosed the sooner relief from those symptoms can begin.
I wish you better health and life worth living into. I am sure at times you are wondering if it is all worth it... I can tell you for sure... it is.
12 Aug 2012
Hey Stacy, so sorry to hear about your pain problems. First, yes, it might take up to a month to find out whether the cymbalta will help, if it does. But, it might not help either. also, it sounds as if you have more problems than just fibro. First, I think that you need to see a specialist, or another specialist if you are already seeing someone about your back. It's not that bad, but after standing your legs start to tingle??? That doesn't sound like a simple herniated disk to me, that sounds as if you have more than one problem with your spine. Doctors can get soooo lazy at times, it just infuriates me!!! also mary is right about getting your thyroid tested. You have no idea how many systems your thyroid can affect!! Also, what about your cortisol levels, which really can only be tested by saliva, and you have to have a progressive doctor to check that, and your B-12 levels, and your vitamin D levels.
There are so many simple answers to some chronic pain, if only the doctors would just start thinking outside of pharmaceutical companies for the answers!!!
If you truly have fibro, which is very possible, you need to enlighten yourself about the condition, and learn to pace yourself. That will help relieve a lot of the fatigue that you are experiencing. You MUST rest daily, and plan your days so that you don't do too much in one day. It's really a hard thing to learn, but once you stop fighting the condition, you will find that life goes much easier for you. Of course this is after you have all these things checked out. There are other excellent books out besides the one that Mary mentioned. One is called Adrenaline Fatigue, a 21st Century Epidemic. Excellent book, and tells you what you can do to help yourself. I'm sure that everyone who has chronic pain suffers from some degree of adrenal fatigue. there are supplements that can really help also. I suggest reading up on them at Swanson Vitamins. they have excellent prices, and they have a fantastic research library also. Supplements can do more than medications in a lot of cases also.
Best of luck to you, and I truly hope that you find the answers that you are looking for!!!
12 Aug 2012
I just wanted to add to the great responses from Lisa, Mary, Kaismama and msfino, I believe you need to see a psychiatrist. Depression can make everything you are dealing with a lot worse. It may make the difference in how you feel just to talk. The shrink will medicate accordingly and a therapist will listen to you all day long or at least an hour. I have some of the issues you have and I love to cry and yell at my therapist. She doesn't mind. He/she is there for you with a different point of view, perhaps, suggest coping mechanisms and a whole lot more including support.
Just thinking ...
Sweetest Kooky Hippie
12 Aug 2012
My heart goes out to you as I know what it is like to have so much pain & family to think you are just being lazy. First off you said you have been staring at the "bottle" I assume you are talking about alchohol ? If so Please do Not self medicate with alchohol especially since you are on medication as it can be Deadly & then how do you think your kids will feel ? Please think about your kids before going down the road to destroy yourself & your family..
And if the injections you are getting are not working then you need to tell the dr. that you want to stop receiving them. As if they were going to work on you you should have felt the results right after the 1st shot.
You did not say if you were taking any type of pain medication if you are what are you taking?
The type of pain you are describing you will need a pain medication to give you pain releif as the Cymbalta will help with the depression & a small amount of pain that comes with depression.
If you are not seeing a pain management specialist already you really need to find one as soon as possible. If you are seeing one & obviously they are not helping then find another one..
As far as your deep depression you really need to see a physciatrist.
I think everyone has given you great advise on this site. And as everyone is telling you about getting your Thyroid checked is great advise.
I really want you to know there is help out there you just need to find some good doctors. And you need to be your Own Advocate to get help... But Please DO NOT turn to alchohol for releif as it will Destroy you & your family.
And once you get answers to what is exactly wrong with you then you will need to educate your family so they can understand that you are not being lazy & the reasons that you are feeling like you are. I wish you the best & please hang in there & either throw out the alchohol or move it to somewhere that you cannot see it. Also this site is a great support system for you & we all have either the same issues as you or are battling our own medical issues. Take care & keep us updated. I have sent you a friend request & once you accept it we can speak by private messages. Kathy
28 Sep 2012
Stacy, so sorry to hear what happened!! You were doing fine on effexor, and she just took you off without even knowing you?? One other suggestion that might help your pain also, I reread your question, and you mention that you are tired all the time, and that you could sleep anytime, anywhere. Your car accident might have caused an obstruction which causes you to have sleep apnea. It also could be that you were born with the condition, which after many years of saying that only fat people get it, are now saying that people with certain types of anatomical structure can get it also. It makes you VERY tired, even though you get enough sleep every night. Pain gets worse when you are not well rested, which is why I reconsidered this. (Not that you shouldn't get another opinion because of the tingling in your legs after standing) But your sleepiness sounds VERY much like sleep apnea.
There is a questionnaire that your doctor has about your sleeping habits, such as do you snore, does your partner say that you keep them up at night, toss and turn, fall asleep the minute you are still, things like that. From the result of the questionnaire then they know whether to send you for a sleep study or not. This is extremely important, because people can get heart disease from sleep apnea. It is very hard on the heart.
I truly hope that you are feeling better soon, and glad that you are not going back to that doctor!! Best wishes to you!
29 Sep 2012
Why did your doctor change you from Effexor to Cymbalta? The two are both SNRIs and are very similar. The timing for them to take effect is between 2 and 4 weeks.
I would recommend that you try to get marital counseling when you say that your family thinks that you are lazy. That's terrible. You deserve the utmost support at this time, not criticism.
What bottle are you staring at? The Effexor bottle that you are having withdrawal symptoms from or a bottle of alcohol? That your doctor has put you in so much pain at the risk for alcohol makes me wonder about the doc. But God forbid that you start drinking. That will have lasting bad effects on your children.
You may need a pain management doctor to deal with your pain. Try to get in to see one.
You have a lot of support on here. Wish you had it at home.
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