Depressed boyfriend using Oxycontin (Roxies) as self-medication. Need as much insight as possible!?
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- 28 Feb 2010 by RiaRoseKnows
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- oxycontin, roxicodone, depression
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My boyfriend of 4 years has recently started using Oxycontin (and Roxies) this past September. At first, I thought that he was just doing it with his friends because they were giving it to him and it was a way for him to look "cool" in front of them. At first, on occasion, I would do some with him here and there but not nearly as much as he has been. I do not do them at all anymore.
His friends give it to him for "free" or it seems to me that he sits around waiting for someone to just say "Here take some" As far as I've seen, he rarely asks but it's as if he expects it.
I attempted to help him with an at-home detox the past 3 days. He had the typical withdrawal symptoms like RLS, insomnia, aches and pains and overall just feeling like ****.
Just this morning (The 3rd day of detox) he began to really open up to me as to why he does the drugs. He told me that when he's not on them, he doesn't give a crap about anything. When he is on them, he's more productive, he eats, he goes to school etc. I have even noticed an improvement in the way that he treats me when he's on them. He expressed to me that he wants to still do them and he wants to do them so he can get through his day and be able to sit through school and get a degree.
I sense he is seriously depressed. I suggested that he go see his doctor, tell him exactly how the Oxycontin makes him feel and how exactly he feels off of it and the doctor may be able to provide to him a better route of dealing with his obvious depression. (Which he doesn't think it is depression, he just calls it as not giving a ****... In which my response is, "That IS depression sweetie")
He wants to continue the use until he sees the doctor this week.
I have a really hard time determining what I should be doing about this. I don't want to sit back and watch him get deeper and deeper into the drugs. On the other hand, I want him to be successful.
Has anyone had a similar experience as this either with a loved one OR have you been in my boyfriends shoes before? I need some insight from people that have been through this before. I love him dearly but I hope that he can face his real problems head on rather than sedating them. What can I do?
28 Feb 2010
He is at the start of addiction and there isn't a whole heck of a lot you or anyone else can do. Most addicts suffer from depression, low endorphin production, shitty home life while growing up ect. What he doesn't understand and won't because he'll tell you and himself that he's different then everyone else is the euphoria he is getting from the opiates will turn on him and he will become more depressed then he is now, It becomes a vicious circle and you either get into recovery or die.
It took me almost 25 years of daily abuse before I could get into recovery and then it took almost a year and a half before I stopped abusing. My brain chemistry was so messed up that it took a good 5 years for it to revert back to normal. I will be on ORT (Opiate Replacement Therapy), (methadone), for the rest of my life but that's OK, I have a life now.
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So you can stay and try and live with it or you can get out while the getting is good. I know this sounds terrible but this is the life of a addict. He will not stop for you or anyone else while he is feeling the euphoria that has been missing all his life. It makes him feel normal, manly, smarter everything you can think of that makes someone in this state think they're happy and doing fine.
For me it took a little over 3 years of Demerol abuse before all the so called good times disappeared and I slowly began to turn into a miserable prick with a huge chip on my shoulder.I could have 1,000 greys (100mg morphine sustained release) and I wouldn't be any better just a nasty prick who stayed the last 15 years of active abuse hiding downstairs and only going out to pick up. I puked bile daily and was down to 123lbs (I weigh a normal 175lbs now). You slowly begin to care less and less about anything or anyone and that goes for wives, kids, girlfriends ect. I would average 3,000mgs of morphine a day and still feel nothing but hate, anger and over all dark feelings. Heroin was no better as I could do grams and grams a day and feel no better if not worse.
So you really need to think this out and give yourself the option of having a normal life or living with a self destructive addict who will drag you down with him no matter how much you think he won't. Get out now and if he gets into a rehab and stays clean for a good amount of time then perhaps he can win you back. I hope that he does the smartest thing he's done to date and that is to get to a rehab and stop this before it's to late. His story is starting out like any other addict on this site started out and don't let him tell you he's different because it's not really him, it\s his chemical make up and he has no choice... Good luck... Dave
1 Mar 2010
well since opiate pain killers mimic endorphins (pain killers use euphoria inorder to take away the pain... go figure why they are addictive) i think its a bad idea to let him use while he waits untill he sees a doctor to get the depression treated (from the little info about this you gived i believe your right about the depression). He will probably need both this and inpaitent drug treatment since he obviously doesnt want to stop (not impossible for him to be treated just very hard if they dont want to stop).
if he refuses inpatient treatment i would say see a psychologist on a weekly basis (or certified counciler since the only difference is a doctorate vs a masters degree- in psychology counciling or social work) as well as a psychiatrist (which he is apparently going to see who will prescribe him antidepressants which take a full month to work) to help get to the real problems.
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remember that you cant change a person for long term unless they want to change. also if he wants to stop he needs to delete all of his friends who use. the fact that he openned up while hes comming off the drugs shows that he couple be looking for a way out of his cycle
3 Mar 2010
Hey my situation isn't exactly similar but my wife of almost 3 yrs.have fought constantly over the pills i was taking too. At first it started off i was bartending so i lifted heavy things through a 13 hour day so to help get by my bouncer slash buddy at work would kick me a Loritab or 2. As time led on through working the grueling 13 hour shifts it kept getting worse over time so i was making decent money to see a pain specialist which don't take insurance which then just said i have bad muscular spasms and wrote me scripts for roxi 15mg. and 350mg. somas. from there ive been from Dr. after Dr. and Chiropractors. I've been on antidepressants, antianflammatories u name it I have tried it but the only thing that has worked ever since now knowing it is 2 bad discs is the oxycodone30mg.
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but my wife and i still fight about the money aspect of the cost of it all like is my happiness worth it in the long run? From someone being in this kind of pain and seeing the miracles it allows me to perform in my everyday life with 3 kids and my wife and my job. I would say its definetely a very fair trade instead of the pain I've gone through for the last 3 and a half years. Just stand by his side no matter what hes going through all the Dr.s and all he goes through will certainly bring you closer and it will be more rewarding in the end. It just needs to be known that this can't be for recreation. Thats what kills people and makes it harder for legitimately hurt people to not be able to get meds they deserve. Good luck to yall and GOD BLESS!
14 Mar 2010
Thank you all for your comments and insight...
Unfortunately... His want to do drugs is overpowering our relationship. He now blames me for having him stop, that his life was crumbled because of me "getting into his head" to stop.
I will not lie, I did look in disgust and criticize his drug use. I made him feel like crap about him using and in turn this makes me feel as if it's my fault for him being even more upset when he's off of them. While he was going through the withdrawals he was saying how he just "Wants to do them" and it "Makes him happy" and "Makes him feel normal" I just thought that was the withdrawals speaking and I tried to push him through.
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His friend got into a car accident, smashed into a bus, and the cops found 6 pill bottles on him, cocaine, alcohol and the friend in the passenger seat was taken away in ambulance due to the fact that he was so messed up on drugs. This "friend" tried to get my boyfriend to lie to the cops saying that he(my boyfriend) was the one driving the car and that he left to go get help. My boyfriend was with me in the morning. I was furious. We both gave our statements saying that I was in fact with my boyfriend and he had nothing to do with this accident. I told my boyfriend that I was glad that this happened (I know sounds very mean and nasty) but I figured it would help them BOTH to see. I even told his friends family that they can't keep bailing him out of jail (because this isn't the first time that this kid has gotten in trouble, the parents bail him out every time) and that this could be a wake-up call for him. I was especially angry that he would do that to MY boyfriend who I thought was also my best friend.
At first, I thought he understood. Now, he is saying that it wasn't that big of a deal and that he could have gotten out of that situation. That I ruined his relationship with this person.
What the hell is wrong with him? He also told me that he's upset that his friend was his "Free ride" for drugs and money and that I messed that up and it's my fault he doesn't go out and have fun anymore. Am I stupid? What the hell am I doing?
I love him but I think he is too far gone... I also don't want to be that person that just gives up on him either.
5 Apr 2010
My boyfriend of 4 years has used oxycontins, I think he is doing them daily. I believe that he crushes them and snorts them, and probably does between half a 40 and a whole 40, once in the morning and again in the evening. Your story sounds just like mine. It works like clockwork... back a month and a half ago, when I knew he was using them, he would leave to his friends, come back in a great mood. The next day he would go to work, come home and sleep until late, wake up for a bit, go back to bed. Then it started again, he was gone the next night. Now he has a pattern of being grumpy if he works like six hours. Then after 30 min to an hour he gets happy. He works so hard at making me happy, he is a joy to be around. Then he'll get grumpy, money is a huge trigger. He will get so angry that he is scary. He doesn't deny using them.
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He will change the subject a 100 times, he'll say we have already talked about this, but he does not ever deny that he is addicted to oxycontins. I suspect that he wants me to know, but can't tell me for fear that I will impede him from getting high. I would love if you could use your experiences to assist me in getting him the help he needs.
21 May 2010
My fiance ws addicted to oxycontin for about 2 years and it got to the point where he was injecting them. He finally went to rehab for about 60 days, and of course while he was in there he promised to change and stay clean. He never wanted to go back to that life again. Well he got out in February of 2010 and by March he was dabbling in drugs again. Then in April he got a jail sentence for 30 days and then again swore that this isnt the life he wants, he wants to do right for me and the kids. Promise after promise... broken! So after jail he di fine for a couple weeks, and now as of May 19th hes using again. I have found the needles and everything and all he does is deny! Its so hard to leave because i know addiction is a sickness, but it coming to a point to where i have to think about my self and the children involved. Ican't help him if he doesnt want to help himself. I don't want to sound negative but its a hard road to go down.
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I hope everything is better with you and your boyfriend. And its true because addicts are very selfish and it hurts so bad when you love someone so deeply.
16 Mar 2012
Productive? He's stoned and sailing on the hi people get when they abuse pain meds. Withdrawal will produce what looks like sincerity, but it's usually just desperation. I would point you (you) to any support group for loved ones of addicts, you can find an ALANON group almost anywhere, does not matter that you're not dealing with an alcoholic. Next step is to figure out if he really wants to change and go straight, it can be very hard to tell, but eventually he'd wind up in a recovery group with a sponsor. GET YOURSELF SOME HELP AND SUPPORT FIRST!!!
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What a heartfelt and wonderfully informative response, I could not have said it better myself, never having had the problem myself, other than dealing with my daughter who was hooked on meth and other dangerous drugs for almost 7 to 8 years. I never gave up on her, I got between her and the drugs every chance I got. She is now been clean for almost nine years and I am a very, very thankful Mom/grandma, she has four children all of which I've raised to a certain degree while she went through all this. It;s not an easy task as you stated, it has to be wanted by the person themself, but don't give up.. Rehab, counseling, what ever. And as you so wisely stated, you sometimes have to walk away, and add the "tough Love". hard to do, heartbreaking yes! But almost always necessary. Bless you.