I have been addicted to oxycontin for a year, on and off. I've taken 20 mg's of methadone over 7 hours ago, and starting too feel a bit ancy. I have no methadone left but i do have suboxone. Can i take the suboxone after taking the methadone. Mind you i am addicted to neither, and have done them both fewer than 5 times (they help with the w.d's a ton). Can anyone help me?
15 Aug 2009
HELL NO. Do that and you'll get sick I promise. If you start on the subs before you are in moderately SEVERE w/d you'll regret it. Tell me all the reasons you believe you'll be okay because your situation is different and my answer won't change. So if you do it then get sick as hell it's on you. I surely wouldn't do it.
15 Aug 2009
You need to be in fairly signifigant withdrawls before you take the suboxone. At least 3 days. If you have been taking methadone for a long time then you probably won't start to feel really bad for until day 5. If you take the suboxone before you're feeling really bad then it will put you into withdrawls like you won't believe. So wait as long as possible then take 4mgs... Dave
4 May 2010
Well with my experience, I was on the methadone program for 3 years and was prescribed 160mg of Methadone a day, I had just recently went to treatment and got off it, they made me wait 6 days before they gave me suboxone, it was hell. But when I got out I started using again, and I have taken methadone one day and suboxone the next, just as long as (methadone) its not built up in your system you should be ok, I was ok when I did it but thats me it may be different for others, I would try to wait at least 12-24 hours before doing it though. Technically you are not suppose to mix them, I know alot of people that have gotten sicker mixing them but they were taking methadone daily
15 Apr 2011
I just signed up to give my 2 cents. Hell anything the US FDA recommends being banned I take with a grain of salt but this designer drug Suboxone I really believe was designed by the Devil himself. I started on pain pills and Heroin in the 60's and believe me Methadone works. Everyone has lost sight as how to use it. 5 Years should be the longest you stay on then a 2mg taper every 2-3 weeks and you will walk off and never know you were ever using it. I have 1/2 dozen friends that have done the same. Problems Methadose they now use lasts only 12-16 hours. The original biscuits lasted 2-3 days before wd's. I read about drops by 20 or 40 mg? Are they crazy? 5mg should be the largest drop at a time. I tapered by 2mg like above and walked off feeling great and all the problems associated with it gone overnight, actually at around 10mg. I was clean 8 years at that time. Then the same old story, one time won't hurt me then it was off to the races.
Only 2 years that time with the same meth taper.
Recently I started a pill habit after swearing off heroin and needles. I swear we are all completely nuts the lot of us. I tried Suboxone detox for a pill meth/oxy/ms-contin addiction. I waited the recommended time then when I took it I had to take 12mg to cover the wd's This cold feeling flowed through me then this real creepy feeling then bam I was manic to the point my employer wanted to bring me to the hospital. Can't sit down, can't stop talking no concentration' feel like I'm blind, headaches then after about 10 hours I would feel fine sleep good then in the am after dosing same sh*&^T. The extremely long half-life and recommended anesthetic detoxes should scare any sane person away. Well anyways I was on 4 days at 12mg then flushed them waited 42 hours and went back on Meth (Dolophine 10mg tabs) from a doctor. Best decision I ever made. Partial opiates, Naloxone, affinity for receptors, antagonists GOOD GOD.
17 May 2011
DON'T DO IT!!! I have a friend who take large amounts of Methadone and was curious about Suboxone. I take Suboxone because I am a opiate addict. And personally I love it and I feel that it's saved my life. I was taking 10-12 Vicodin, Norco, or Percocets a day. Back to my friend, she hadn't taken any Methadone the day she took the Sub but once she took it, about a half hour later she was sick as a dog. She immediately went into withdarawl!!! And I mean something awful, had to call the ambulance and everything!! I couldn't believe it and will never give anyone any of my Subs ever again. Listen to your doctor, do as she or he saids! Be careful and God bless!
13 Dec 2011
About four years ago i made the mistake of taking half a suboxone about 24hrs after taking my daily dose of 70mgs of methadone. I naively thought that those 24hrs would be long enough to wait. I swear I have never been so sick in my life! Not even with the flu! I had to report off of work and spent the day either in the bathroom, pacing the house or trying to sleep (couldn't do it). I got up @ 4am the next day, drove to the methadone clinic and drank my 70mgs! I was fine after that. However a few years ago, I decided that methadone was not working for me anymore so I droppd down to 30mgs, spent two days in withdrawl and then went on 12mgs of subox. I'm assuming that the longer you wait to take the suboxone, the less of a chance you have of going into severe withdrawl. I also wonder if body weight and metabolism have anything to do with it?
26 Mar 2012
All u hear is wait wait..ive been on methadone for yrs... ive been on 20mgs for like 7 months now & am switching over to suboxone (again). The 1st time I only had to miss one day then could start it now they've switched it to u have to miss 2... which is bull. So yesterday I got my last dose and I'm sorry i refuse to be sick for 2 days do I made sure i had 2 suboxones just in case. I dont know who says methadone lasts 4-5 days but my 20mgs barely takes me to the next morning. Anyway I just took 2mgs of suboxone and it took away my upset stomach / scratchy throat (am i the only one who gets that?). So im barely outside 24hrs & i'm okay.
10 Apr 2012
No-one here seems to have a grip on why you'd go all w.d.-ish' if you take suboxone too soon after you last dose of methadone. Suboxone also contains naloxone, which flushes all the lovely methadone/ opiates out of your brain, before it lets in the buprenorphine. If you havent waited long enough, its like you're washing the opiate band-aid right off, and KA-POW!!! you're sick as a dog, almost instantly. Suboxone, which is buprenorphine and naloxone, works because buprenorphine is only a partial opiate agonist, while blocking the effects of other opiates with naloxone. Naloxone is what they wake you up with if you have taken too much opiate. C'mon folks, if your lives are worth anything to you, talk to your doctors or look up reliable sites on the net. Do not listen to the general musings of your peers. After all, they're dumb enough to take dope.
10 Apr 2012
If suboxone is the same as subutex,bupernorfein I'm from UK please dont mix opiates bcos if u have opiates in your system the blockers even if a minute bit in your system can effect u badly bcos u go straight into withdrawls . I did this bcos I was in sooo much of a rush to Get off the opiates in my system & BAM!!! it lasted 24 hrs u have to think when withdrawals come on usually they build up & u get uste the the horrible effects then another onslaught starts but when u take a blocker over opiates u don't build up a pain barrier of the rollacoasting hell that's to come , u just go BAM!!! & it hits & there's not much u can do to supress it .
U will try bcos that's what addictions & pain relief can do to a person , u need it to stop & will try your damn hardest;( I also did this thinking I cud counteract & level myself out which can be VERY DANGERous! To say the least ;/ I was very unwell the best thing I cud of done to stop the reaction that started was to ride it out. & bcos the withdrawals hit me fast & hard I ended up going straight fr the opiates the nxt day bk to square one & not wanting to go thru again ? I was just so fed up of having to b a slave to it & revolving my whole existence to it ... But don't give up get the most possible advice I'm now on 10 mls of methadone down from 120mls the highest dose u get in UK ;/ I've been reducing 2mls every two weeks & I've been great with any opiate slowly but surely it's been hard but I'm hear now & I'm sooo proud of myself x I know we all hav different story's but it's pain + opiates + blocker = pain they don't mix goos luck x
28 Apr 2012
Suboxone will throw u into immediate withdrawal. It is also an opiate blocker. Only take the suboxone if u have no opiates in ur system. I'm currently at 120mgs of liquid methadone dailey and from personal experience have had the worst withdrawals of my life from not waiting for my system to be atleast three days clean of any opiate before taking the suboxone. The worst part is even if u have pills to take u wont even feel them. Like I said its also a opiate blocker. Good luck with everything.
1 May 2012
Ive been taking Methadone for over 9 years and at one time during my Tx my Doc was attempting to put me on Suboxone. It didnt work and I took 60 mg of methadone, after having my daily Suboxone dose. I got scared and called my Doc and he was pissed. So much in fact that he cut me off, said good luck and if I lived thru the night to call him in the morning. Now obviously I did not die but his belief is that you cant mix the two. But I am also starting to get real synical about some of what he is telling me after reading what is posted here about subs. and remember if your addicted to oxy's than your addicted to opiates and all opiates fill the same neuro- receptors in your brain. Do research before dosing thats really all I can say.
31 May 2012
PLEASE wait at least 72hrs, before taking the sub., if not u will get w.d.'s. The only way 2 get off meth. is a gradual withdrawal, I'm decreasing 2 mg. every couple of weeks from 60mg. I'm 34yo. and after 7 years of the juice and program running my life I HAVE to move on. Have no desire for "H", now its all pills anyway, but I do fight the urge to double up on my dose, which I have done a few times, but I would not recommend it. Still sick and tired in New York.
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