Arrested for Doctor Shopping in Oklahoma?
- 20 Jun 2010 by juleshoward
- stadol, addiction
Can you help me? I can’t stop this addiction to Stadol Nasal Spray. It’s a very strong opiate. The bottle info reads that there are 15-16 sprays, but there are always 24 in each bottle. I am using one bottle in about 6 hours. They cost $50/bottle and are extremely hard to get the physician to write for (I have migraine headaches) so I don’t always have it.
I’ve gotten myself addicted to this medication because of migraine headaches. I’ve gone to different doctors, clinics, urgent cares, emergency rooms, pharmacies, even driven 3 hours to another state to find more emergency rooms. I am from California and have learned that they are a lot more liberal with prescribing narcotics. Now I live in Oklahoma. A few months ago, an ER physician almost arrested me for lying to him about getting Stadol from another doctor. He told me that he was alerting all of the area hospitals, if I stepped foot in any ER, I would be arrested. He told me it was a felony to lie to a medical professional about getting narcotics.
Last week I saw (one) of my family physicians. (Yes, I do doctor shop). He said he got a report from the Oklahoma Narcotic Board telling him that I was going to multiple doctors and multiple pharmacies. He was telling me that I had to pick one doctor and one pharmacy or they were going to put me in prison, it was a felony, with big fines, I was in a lot of trouble. He said that he would not be sending me to prison but they (this OK narc board ) would be arresting me if I didn’t straighten this out right away.
OK—of course I am terrified and was motivated to change, I made a commitment with the dr that I would only see him, then I went and got drugs! (I’m so disappointed).
So—some questions: 1. How is Doctor shopping illegal in OK? I can’t figure that out. I found where forging scripts is. Who can arrest me and how, do they come to my door or wait till I go to the pharmacy, when will they do it? 2. To be in AA/NA you are supposed to have a desire to change—I honestly don’t want to change, I want to keep getting high and not feel my problems, how can I get better? 3. How am I going to quit stadol?
21 Jun 2010
Hey Jules, sorry for all the problems and fear you have. They may try to arrest you at the pharmacy when you try to pick it up or the next time you do, I have heard of that. I am not trying to scare you, I am trying to help although I know that was a scary statement. You have to want to change to stop the stadol to stop it, but if you are not ready, you aren't ready and I have definitely been there too. You can go to NA or AA whether you are ready or not, they may try to get you ready or convince you that you are ready. If you can get and attorney and talk to them ( just in case), they will be able to explain why it is illegal in OK and what can happen. You may need to go to an outpatient recovery center to get maximum help available to you. This will include individual and/or group therapy and possibly a methadone/suboxone doctor who will prescribe medicine to help you get off the stadol.
Look suboxone up here, in wikipedia and go to Youtube.com so you are at least aware of this opiate replacement therapy help. On Youtube, look under suboxone, New Beginnings detox( psychologist Dennis Hansen talks about it) and also suboxdoc aka Dr. Jeffrey Junig. There are so many things I would like to say to you but I am just trying to think of things that may help you NOW. If you do get arrested ( and I will Pray Big Time that you DON"T) going into treatment or getting treated will help your defense. NA or AA may have members who have had legal problems in the past and may refer you to a good defense attorney. I hope it won't come to that, but, I just am offering a suggestion... or 5 if it does. Check out the suboxone route and the methadone route as much as you can to see if you might be interested in either. Methadone and suboxone are both opiate replacements and methadone is better for someone who actually has true pain. Suboxone is for those whose pain is much milder or occasional and they want to get off pain meds. I am on suboxone and I definitely think it was the right choice for me. Don't try to get suboxone anywhere but a licensed suboxone doctor, I am hearing that it is being diverted to the streets, TRUST ME on this, Don't. I hope that you are able to get some legal help soon and that you don't get into any trouble. I will say some HUGE Prayers for you, Jules. Read and watch what I suggested and you will at least have info on alternatives. Good Luck, Patti
21 Jun 2010
OMG! you poor thing i cant imagine what you are going through i can in a way cause i doctor shopped for a year straight but was never threatened to be arrested and was never told that by any doctor. Are you signing contracts with these doctors? that might have something to do with it. I live in texas and they never have done that to me and ive never heard of that happening to anyone before in my life! WOW what a**holes. About the getting arrested part they would actually arrest you at the pharmacy they would be there waiting for you to pick up your prescription. So if i were you if you plan on going to pharmacy after the fact i would for one drive-thru and also scope out the store see if you see any police cars or undercover. Why are you doing this to yourself please get some help we are all here for you! i totally know how it feels to be the victim of drugs ive struggled with them all my life.
Only because i have my husband i have restrained myself from going to hospitals and doctors multiple times. You are right though if you feel you are not ready to change those meetings are pretty pointless cause basically everything they say will go in one ear and out the other. You are in opiate hell and you need to pull yourself out there is a medication called suboxone and methadone and they have clinics you can get this from. Just go in there and tell them you are addicted to opiates and you need their help please do it for me i really do care about you and am so sorry you are going through this. Trust me you dont want to go to jail for something so silly as this. What you are doing is very serious apparently in OK and you cant continue this behavior in jail they wont help you and you will go through some serious withdraws. No doctor in jail will even give you something for withdraws then you will really be stuck not only will you not be around a hospital, or doctors office but you definantly wont have the option then to recieve the right medicine you will need to get through the withdraws and get better. PLEASE PLEASE IM BEGGING YOU ASK FOR HELP!!! Go to a detox clinic immediatly and get some methadone or suboxone. GET SOME HELP NOW! write back to me and let me know how things go i will add you in my friends list so you can ask me a private question if you need to. Take care and get some help michelle.
21 Jun 2010
hi jules h,first let me say this"if your still so excited about the chase and madness of what you think is a great way to get over on the system then go right ahead and keep doing what your doing.but if you really want help then text me when you get out of prison.dont you know that all email,
text messages,and phone calls are monitored by all kinds of government agencys.specially if they have a heads up on you in the first place.your text sounds like your just an addict with a drug problem.by the way all my friends out there on drugs .com,were not supposed to help people who just want to keep gettin over on the system to keep their habits going.its people like this who made our doctors so afraid that they make us sign a contract,because of shoppers and drug dealers.so by all means keep telling these people how and what to look for at pharmacies.i know we all can sympathize with a struggling person in pain.but our friend here seems not to want help getting getting better,they want help getting over.when i came to this site,it was for help just like most of you did. whoever you are get yourself help.stop making it impossible for people in real pain... pete
22 Jun 2010
Thank you so much Patti and Michelle for your input and concern. I really think it is a blessing that I am now in a state where it is so hard to get prescription narcotics and I've always been too afraid to try street narcotics. I have tried suboxone in a treatment center and it works really well. I talked to a doctor about giving it to me and I don't have insurance for it. He prescribed another drug to help me "taper off" and I used it all at once. The good thing about Stadol addiction (if there can be a good thing) is that there is not a huge physical sickness when you are kicking it like with lortab/vivadin. So I'm just going to have to not take it. It's just the emotional struggle that's hard. One of you mentioned about going to AA or NA, even though I was not ready to go. If that is allowed, i can really try to go, I just don't honestly have the power to give addiction up.
It just concerns me because to go to AA you have to be willing to change, and I don't have the strength to do it—for more than a few weeks. But thank you for your support and I will keep writing. Jules
24 Jun 2010
Hi Jules I am sorry to hear about this but i do understand you i was addicted to percocet for 2 years and i just didnt know how to stop. I didnt have any medical issues I just liked the high so much i couldnt stop and the numbness that made my problems feel like they didnt exist but you must come back to reality. The good thing is that you have realized you have a problem and thats the first step but if you really dont want to stop you probably will not succeed. I dont mean to say such negetive things but its the truth until you want sobriety for yourself you do not have a chance most likely. I would say that they are threating to arrest you because of how out of control opiate use has become, too many people are addicted I live in NYC and they are cracking down on narcotics big time.
My friend got caught with one roxicodone and she was arrested and given a misdeamer and had to do community service it is not a joke and right now you are on the road to prison you sound like a good person and you sound care and you do not want that to happen to. Look a good piece of advice to stopping if you cannot go cold turkey is a medication called suboxone which is made for opiate dependence but it will not help unless you want to stop, you can google it or even you tube it, if you are not familiar with this medication an overview is it will stop the withdrawals and you feel absolutely normal like you did before you started using but you feel sober so if you dont want to feel sober than you are going to toss it aside. But you must use suboxone the right way because it stops the withdrawals because it is a parial opiate so if you abuse it and stay on it for too many years than you can become dependent. If i was you i would be honest with your doctor and tell him the truth because he will help you he wont turn you away and i do beleive that he will very much respect your honesty. There is nothing to be embarressed about this happens too so many people including myself. And i have to say i could not get past a few days cold turkey without using and the suboxone really helped me but like i said you have to want to do this and i guarntee when you stop you will want to kick yourself in the butt for what you did, but i promise if you really try it will get better and you wont feel like this anymore. I hope i helped in any way possible and i wish you luck in the future. Danny.
12 Apr 2011
Hi Jules, I was told that I have something on my background record and when I found out what it was, they said that it was "Doctor Shopping", what is that, and can you go to jail for it. I know that they had a warrant out for me and my husband had to put up a 3,500$ bond to get me out. Well he had to pay 10%. Well I have a court date coming up in May and I need your help please. Thank you Sharon
12 Apr 2011
Jules, this is sharon again, did you get me e-mail? I really do need to know what doctor shopping is. Thank you very much.
10 May 2011
I have a question, my friend was busted doctor shopping, he is now in a world of pain. We live in Oklahoma and have not been able to find any doctor who will take him on. He was getting two different narcotics from two different doctors for his back. He has had 3 back surgeries, and he wants to go on the straight and narrow and find a pain management specialist to help him. Does anyone have any suggestions to find a doctor that will help him??
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