I have been a heroin addict for 10 years and have been on methadone since July 2009 (90 ml) have been clean off heroin for just over 3 months. I am going on holiday with my family who do not know I am on drugs, in 3 weeks time. I am going to a country with one of the strictest customs in the world and I therefore don't want to take opiates with me. I started rapidly reducing my methadone about a month ago, 5 ml reduction every 3 days. I felt fine as I was determined. I got down to 50 and then self-reduced straight down to 25 then the next two days 20, this was 6 days ago. When I told my drug workers what I had done they transferred me to subutex, I took my first one about 36 hours ago having left about a 48 hour gap between that and the methadone. I have had 3 previous experiences with subutex and the last one was absolute hell (think looking back must have been precipitated withdrawal but also my mind was just not in the right place - that detox was forced on me whereas this one is entirely of my own accord) therefore, this time is nowhere near as bad but i still feel rough and lacking in energy and my mood is so low, whereas before i was doing amazing, working out every day and felt so happy. i want to come off subutex preferably in 2 weeks, 3 max for the reason explained above. I am on 8mg at the moment. I am also so scared about how low i feel, but i know from past experience this should only be temporary. I am living with my partner who still uses heroin infront of me and indeed i am scoring his heroin for him. I know I should be so proud of my determination and how far I have come, from a £150 a day IV H habit and more latterly a crack addiction as well, to this. But I feel so low. I would appreciate any advices.
Advice needed re rapid subutex taper?
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- 16 Oct 2010 by Otterrr
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- subutex, opiate dependence, opiate withdrawal, heroin, methadone
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17 Oct 2010
Try going on the forum and asking top member Robert_325 about this, Most of us are not going that fast on a suboxone or subutex taper. Robert is our expert and he does have a schedule for a rapid taper. Go to community, look for forum/discussion boards, go there, look for top members and find Robert_325, start thread asking about this ( ask question I think means to start thread, not a computer genius here) I hope he can help, that would be my advice for you. Pattishan
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You definitely need some support. Find at least one supportive yet trustworthy person to talk with. You can also come here on on the forum to chat and try and lift your mood. Depression is quite common with those who quit opiates, so common that I wish they would list that as a withdrawal symptom. I hope you can taper this as quickly as you plan, the whole point of subutex is to stop withdrawal and get you past the point of craving. You have done well, if you needed me to say that, YOU HAVE. I know how hard it is to do without having someone doing your D.O.C right in front of you. First things first, you have quit, now work on lifting that mood and getting a new place to live. Doesn't have to be fancy, just safe. It will be nearly impossible for you to stay in the same place with someone still actively using. Be careful and let me know how you are doing.I'll keep you in my prayers. pattishan61
I would definately agree that living with someone using opiates when you are in recovery is a VERY bad idea. I have been in the exact same boat. I wanted to quit so I did what I had to and kicked him out. It was very hard. We were together 5 years. BUT it was the best decision for my health, safety, and sanity. So please know you can do this! I think rapid detox is the way to go. 3 weeks is alittle steep for me personally but sometimes I feel like Im a baby about it. so that really wears on my determination and will which is key to getting better. The most important thing is to know you can do it and you are surrounded here by people who are and have been where you are. I am on day 5 and I am just now starting to feel bad. Its very, very frustrating. I just keep thinking one foot infront of the other, each bad day is one step closer in the right direction.
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But seriously, and I mean this with love and respect, you will not stay clean if you continue to live with a user especialy if they are using right infront of you. I have never done heroin but I understand the withdrawals are the worst of the worst. You don't want to ruin this wonderful trip with your family. Hasn't it taken enough from you? It sure has from me.